The 1921 Census results have been published

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Interesting stuff!

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-59879470

Lots of women were widowed after the First World War.

Several people gave their opinions on divorce.

And I love that one of the census workers complained that children had used the form to play noughts and crosses.

I only saw a digital entry. Is there a way to view the handwritten entry version?

Kicking myself for not doing a screenshot now.

@playmelikeasymphony

FMP does have a month option *@NiceBracelet*, I just considered it. But it tries to make you do a year

@playmelikeasymphony and @MedusasBadHairDay

Thanks for that, I'll take a look - I've obviously not checked closely enough in the past.

It's £9.99 for a 1-month starter membership - I think I might just do that

www.findmypast.co.uk/subscribe?event_location=navbar&duration=1

@DobbyTheHouseElk you don’t lose your access to that record so if you go back and find it again you won’t need to pay again.

[quote BestIsWest]@DobbyTheHouseElk you don’t lose your access to that record so if you go back and find it again you won’t need to pay again.[/quote]
Oh thank you!

I'm sure you had to pay per view when the 1901 census came out. I don't remember paying for the 1911 census but that was a busy time for me so I may not have been researching.
Although FMP have exclusive rights for 3 years, they may change their charging model before that to include access within a subscription.
It's annoyed me so I've cancelled my subscription. I was in a lull anyway so it's easier to put it down for a while.

@SpookyScarySkeletons

Thanks to you lot I have now fallen down the rabbit hole of ancestry and have paid a fortune for an annual subscription to do my entire family tree.

If DH comments on the £119 PayPal payment I'm blaming you lot 😂😂

God it's so flipping interesting though!! Might soften the blow and say I'll add his in too.

I’m guessing you’re new to genealogy. I can also recommend FamilySearch website, General Register Office for searching and ordering BMD certificates, FindMyPast for newspapers and some record sets Ancestry doesn’t have, FreeBMD and the government wills and probate website. I think wills are still only £1.50 each.

[quote mocktail]It's £9.99 for a 1-month starter membership - I think I might just do that

www.findmypast.co.uk/subscribe?event_location=navbar&duration=1[/quote]
You may want to consider going for a pro sub as they have newspapers too….

Oh so if I pay for a subscription does that not include the 1921 census records then? I can't quite figure it out

Ancestry has half price membership at the moment by the way so £60 for annual membership.

www.ancestry.co.uk/cs/offers/subscribe?dna=crossAct&clickref=1100liJcAERC%2C1100liJcAERC&adref=&o_xid=01011l7Ufg&o_lid=01011l7Ufg&o_sch=Affiliate%2BExternal

@mocktail

Oh so if I pay for a subscription does that not include the 1921 census records then? I can't quite figure it out

The 1921 census is currently paid for separately from subscriptions. If you get a 12 month pro sub, you’ll get 10% off each 1921 census return. Transcriptions are £2.50 each and original pages are £3.50 each.

Outrageous profiteering. I'm very cross, this is pure exploitation.

Thanks for the link Mock. Ancestry have been sending me offers but only for UK. I might go for Worldwide again as that's useful for the bits of the family that emigrated.
And that's right, the subscription to FMP doesn't include the 1921 census although you do get a 10% discount.

I'm also very annoyed about this. I was so excited when 2021 came round, thinking I'd be able to access a new census. But it was delayed a year. No problem, I can wait.... but now there is this extortionate charge to view the records. I paid one lot of £2.50 to see where my grandfather was living in 1921 and what his occupation was (turns out I already knew, but at least I had it confirmed) but the very unusual name was transcribed wrong and, not surprisingly, I couldn't find many of his extensive family. So even if I am happy to pay for the transcribers' work (I'm not!) I now know they haven't even done their job properly. It is seriously annoying.

I guess I will now have to wait 3 years for the records to be free. It costs enough as it is, what with subscriptions and BMD certificate charges. No way can I justify £2.50 to look up possibly incorrectly transcribed census returns.

Yes, I suspect a lot of mistranscriptions and its bloody expensive trying to sort them out. Am thoroughly peeved. Also, the access is priced per individual. Previously, you could look at neighbouring houses which can help fill in blanks. Bah.

I have to keep reminding myself that even without the transcription errors, you only know half the story. My 2x great grandma is listed in the 1911 census as living with a single man. She is listed as married and her relation to the head of the house is domestic servant. It might look technically true but they were living as man and wife. She couldn't divorce her first husband as he'd fucked off and left her and their 6 DC in the workhouse 5yrs previously. She'd had a further 2 children with the single man with whom she lived and they remained together for another 30yrs. They died within days together and are buried in the same grave. Under incorrect names as it happens! I only know this because the women in my family live long lives and like to tell a story. Plus I have all their correspondence.

I found my grandmother in the census (age 4), living in a house with 2 adults with the same surname. Which I initially assumed were here parents. But they’re both in their 50s and no other kids. My grandmother had loads of siblings, I’m thinking the adults may be her grandparents.

I paid for the adult woman census record and it says she was the wife of the household, the man was the head and my 4yo grandmother was a “visitor”. If she’d been their child would it have said child?

Far more common situation than you might think, divorce was practically impossible for many and the solution was to walk away, hopefully, but frequently not, with your children if you were a woman. And, as now, men found it a lot easier to just leave and shack up with someone else. Always be aware you may not like what you find when you embark on family search. And a reminder, the 1939 register is available more cheaply than this census and has lots of information. Ancestry, I think.

I've found the 1939 records invaluable. Fortunately, my granny (b 1889) and my Grandma who died recently (b 1920) have both already told me most of the upsetting stuff. The hard bit is when other Ancestry members contact me and ask if I know why a record seems a bit strange and I know exactly why. There are a few babies born to unmarried mothers for example, removed at birth and raised by other family members as their own. Again, I'm lucky to have 100yrs of letters and postcards and diaries but to have been told directly as well. There's a murder too. And several suicides. It can be heartbreaking.

Similar, ShowOfHands, I haven't disclosed the complexities of some tangled family matters, all participants are dead and their descendants don't need to know the details although they could find them if they tried hard enough. I'm leaving the sleeping dogs where they are.

I've found the 1939 register far more useful than the 1921 census to date. I downloaded my grandmothers census just for a keepsake but there isn't anything I didn't already know.

If you already know where they live from the 1911 census and you can usually fill the intervening gaps from there to the 1939 register using other records like birth registrations and electoral rolls anyhow.

I'm pretty disappointed about FMPs pricing model. £3.50 a time is rubbish.

Thankyou so much @Appleseesaw that's really helpful!

Yes I am totally new to it, just started looking this morning after seeing this thread and found it so incredibly interesting. So far (while I'm meant to be working) I have tracked back to great great great great grandparents.

I really want to find my great great grandma's cousin who went to prison for murdering her neighbour with a shovel after finding out she was having an affair with her husband!!

3 fucking years to wait for free access? 😡

I’ve got 15 people to trace in 1921 and that’s just restricted to my Grandad’s family. I was so gutted yesterday, I had no idea of the extra fees, I’d already subscribed to fmp and built the family tree in anticipation, the 1911 census had thrown up a lot of questions.

My dad has confirmed I have managed to find my grandparents.
It has made me ponder how stretched out the generations in my family are though.
1913-Grandfather
1949- father (36)
1986 - me (37, 73)
2013- DD2 (27, 64, 100)
I always thought previous generations had babies younger. I bucked the trend in my family!

@DobbyTheHouseElk

When I looked up my grandmother I could see a digital entry of her name and age. Also her siblings name and age and her mother. The fact they had lost their father. He died in WW1 but it doesn’t say that. Also the name of their maid and where she came from and her age.

Nice to see it in the census, but I didn’t learn anything new. (Apart from the name of their maid)

Go to the Commonwealth War Grave Commission website. Do a search for your relative's name. It will help if you know his regiment and army number but you can search without. You will get date of death And the name of the cemetery he's buried in. Info about him is online too as well as his attestation papers(papers filled pout when he signed up). These will give you his height, weight, General health; also his home address and next of kin, all their names listed.Kew is the place to look.