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Finding a sales job in Aus...from NZ?

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AngryBeaver · 04/01/2022 02:22

Wow, it's been several years since I have posted on MN, but it used to be a great source of information and support, so I thought I'd give it a whirl.

We have lived in NZ 10 years. Have 4 kids aged 15-7, I have been a SAHP (previously a Broadcast Journalist).

I have started 2 businesses in the last 6 years. 1st was like a training course for the 2nd!

The first was quite successful, we sold it and made a good profit 4 years ago.

The second I started with a business partner during the first lockdown. It has done amazingly well in a short time. We are in a few hundred stores over both islands.

My area of work is in sales. It took me a few months to find my feet, and my confidence, and then I really started to love it. I am now very used to talking to people on over the phone and having business meetings in boardrooms. I was terrified of these things when we first started, as I was 'just" a Mum. My husband has always been the bread winner.

The issue is that we reinvest everything back into the business as we want to grow quickly. Eventually branching out in Aus, Asia, US. So I am not drawing a wage.

We had an awful time during the first lockdown (which spurred on starting a business) as my husband's contract came to an end and then he couldn't find another job. Life in Auckland is unbelievably expensive and we quickly burned through our savings. Unbelievably stressful, and my husband is still recovering from it. I feel I need to contribute financially to help us get back on our feet and running again, and take some of the burden off his shoulders.

Here is my point...sorry for the novella!
Although I intend to focus heavily on my own business this year, getting more and more stores on board. and generally kicking arse... I can do this 7-3pm NZ time.
I had the idea of finding a sales position in Australia, to suit WFH in NZ for the remainder of the day and evening.

I would greatly appreciate any help, advice or leads. Thanks for reading!

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echt · 04/01/2022 03:58

Have you tried the PomsinOz Forum?

Also:

www.seek.com.au/jobs/in-All-Melbourne-VIC

It's Australia-wide, not just Melbourne so might well have jobs for WFH.

CliffsofMohair · 04/01/2022 04:03

Nothing useful to add but I remember you from the OZ/NZ threads and so glad to hear you’re all doing well

AngryBeaver · 04/01/2022 06:06

HI Echt, thanks I will have a look.
I am also hoping that a MNer may have a lead, possibly someone owning their own business that maybe needs a BRM or something along those lines.

Aw thanks Cliff. Yeah. We had a really rough ride there. Worst time of our lives. But we were lucky enough to have a healthy baby girl. She is now 7, and as I'm constantly told "good value!" One or two MNers from that time have actually visited me here in NZ, and we have become really good friends. Although I would never tell my 15 year old that not only talk to people off the internet- I meet them! ;)

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spottygymbag · 04/01/2022 11:35

Update your linked in profile and set it to looking for new role (or whatever it's called).
DH did this as a test and 4weeks later we were all moved in to our new apartment in Sydney.
Make sure you know what your cost of living will be vs salary as the states differ hugely.

AngryBeaver · 04/01/2022 18:52

HI spottygymbag, thanks for that. How exciting for you!
We are not looking to move to Aus though. We love NZ and the kids are settled. The problem is I need to earn a wage whilst working on my business here. So the hours that I can free up in the day to do this, would fit in well with Aus time. So I am looking for something over there, but working from home here in NZ.

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violetbunny · 04/01/2022 22:57

Fellow Aucklander here Smile

I can see why this would be appealing, I think the main challenge would possibly be the potential tax implications? As in, for an Australian employer to be able to employ you locally in NZ and for you to pay tax appropriately.

I work in a transtasman marketing role so often do "Aussie hours" as the business requires (and can work flexibly). However, it's for a business that is well established in both Australia and NZ. So legally I'm actually employed by the NZ organisation and pay tax here.

Are the hours for your own business set in stone? I wonder if you would find it easier to rejig your existing hours and/or find something local but quite flexible and part time. Possibly on a contracting or consultancy basis?

spottygymbag · 05/01/2022 00:35

Sorry misread that. I would still recommend using linked in. Im working in hr/recruitment and it's become the main go to for jobs/talent selection etc. Seek is still around but has dropped quite significantly for success and use.
You could use LinkedIn to target recruitment agents in NZ or aus to help you find what you are looking for. They move pretty fast and can be quite aggressive (in a good way) about pursuing opportunities.

spottygymbag · 05/01/2022 00:36

And yes like violet bunny we employ in NZ under a NZ legal entity of our main company.

CrikeyPeg · 05/01/2022 22:36

NZer here operating small business in both NZ and Australia. The tax implications of being a non-resident Australian tax payer mean you are subject to a rate starting at 32.5% for the first (I think) $120K and then it goes up.

As violetb suggested, can you rejig your business hours so you can work for someone else and earn during core-ish NZ hours, then work on your own business after hours?

AngryBeaver · 06/01/2022 19:44

Thanks for the responses. Tax isn't an issue as I would be looking to work for an Aus company already set up here. My husband did a similar thing, and I know people here that work for American companies that have global reach Am Express for Example.

My hours are pretty rigid. I have to be able to call buyers in the early am and the majority leave at 3ish. So I am stuck with that. I have to be able to call/meet with them in those hours to convince them to stock our products :)

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