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Chris noth the allegations and Co stars response statement

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QuicklyNowThen · 21/12/2021 18:41

Reading the response from sjp, kristen Davies and Cynthia nixon Im wondering if they knew or suspected Chris noth and that's why big was killed off so early on in the season of and just like that?

Chris noth the allegations and Co stars response statement
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BoredZelda · 21/12/2021 23:20

Pretty sad that people care more about spoilers than they do about what he's been accused of.

It is sad isn’t it.

felulageller · 21/12/2021 23:28

3 separate women have made disclosures. It is highly unlikely they are the only women (and men) aware of a pattern of behaviour.

DaisyNGO · 21/12/2021 23:35

@felulageller

3 separate women have made disclosures. It is highly unlikely they are the only women (and men) aware of a pattern of behaviour.
For me, the court order against him in 1995 is the kicker. I guess he carried on getting all the work with no one giving a crap.

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Borland · 21/12/2021 23:36

[quote CoffeeMuggins]@Borland

Longer than this Hmm Also, there's literally no need for anyone to post something like this without a "spoiler warning" in the title. It would have been super easy for OP and saved it for a lot of people.

Oh and a lot of people don't read the sun and dailymail. His fate sure as shit hasn't been posted on the more serious news sites with a massive spoiler headline.[/quote]
Erm yes it has, I've read about it in the Times and the Guardian. Due to the nature of his death the company who made the product's shares fell and they then counteracted with a viral ad, it was all over the press, tabloid and broadsheet. I guess you really don't read the news at all. As a previous poster mentioned the series is half way through now so the whole world can't wait to discuss things until you catch up 🤷🏻‍♀️

Why don't you report to MNHQ and ask for a spoiler warning if you feel strongly and want to do a good deed :)

FixItUpChappie · 21/12/2021 23:38

I think it's gross. They have no idea if the allegations are true, not that such a minor detail means anything these days...they still needed to come out to help step on their friends neck just in case they themselves get cancelled.

Our culture is sick in the extreme. We don't need to "believe woman" - I vote we change it too "believe woman after an unbiased investigative process supports their claims" - I realize that isn't as catchy of a slogan though.

DaisyNGO · 21/12/2021 23:53

@FixItUpChappie

I think it's gross. They have no idea if the allegations are true, not that such a minor detail means anything these days...they still needed to come out to help step on their friends neck just in case they themselves get cancelled.

Our culture is sick in the extreme. We don't need to "believe woman" - I vote we change it too "believe woman after an unbiased investigative process supports their claims" - I realize that isn't as catchy of a slogan though.

The court order...do you consider that true? Did he contest it?
Ocsetldil · 21/12/2021 23:58

What was the court order?

EachandEveryone · 22/12/2021 00:05

Where has it ever been said that SJP and Chris Noth are friends? Ive followed for ages and shes never appeared on his social media or mentioned him until the show needed promoting. Unlike Andy Cohen who seems like her genuine close friend.

CoffeeMuggins · 22/12/2021 00:06

I guess you really don't read the news at all

I do, I just don't give any attention to shite.

Hospedia · 22/12/2021 00:15

Our culture is sick in the extreme. We don't need to "believe woman" - I vote we change it too "believe woman after an unbiased investigative process supports their claims"

And yet our current investigative process begins from a place of disbelief, does nothing to support victims, and statistically perpetrators are likely to get away scott-free. False accusations are incredibly rare so I say we stick to a position of "believe women" because "ibdidnt think anyone would believe me" is a major factor in many women not reporting their assault/rape.

DaisyNGO · 22/12/2021 00:17

@Ocsetldil

What was the court order?
Restraining order though it was followed by a mutual one so I guess he disputed it?

www.news.com.au/entertainment/celebrity-life/chris-noths-ex-beverly-johnson-once-claimed-he-threatened-to-kill-her-in-court-documents/news-story/1501744b28ae0e30b2e9c80464b68dd4

Hospedia · 22/12/2021 00:21

A restraining order filed by an ex-girlfriend who says he assaulted her and threatened to kill her and her dog. There are hospital records of the injuries to her ribs and chest. I don't know why he counter-filed but they both agreed to stay away from one another.

FixItUpChappie · 22/12/2021 00:23

That restraining order was mutual they both had one against the other person. Who the fuck knows what was true? Certainly not you or nor I....it's all just speculation and rumour without proper investigative process.

FixItUpChappie · 22/12/2021 00:31

With respect to the statement that there are very few false allegations....this is always stated but how does one do a study on if people are telling the truth realistically? Do they strap everyone to lie detectors? I work in a field where my clients lie all the time - men, women, teens, kids - folks of every persuasion. This has informed my skepticism. I have come to understand humans are very motivated to get their own needs met.

Some would rather woman be believed at the cost of those falsely accused, I would personally err on the side of some convictions being lost as the expense of an evidenced based process.

DaisyNGO · 22/12/2021 00:35

@FixItUpChappie

That restraining order was mutual they both had one against the other person. Who the fuck knows what was true? Certainly not you or nor I....it's all just speculation and rumour without proper investigative process.
Again, hospital records...it didn't start as a mutual thing.

I feel very uncomfortable about trial by media, look at JK Rowling, cancelled over nothing. Cliff Richard - though even if he was guilty, the TV coverage was unacceptable.

But the hospital records don't lie - unless someone else beat up
Noth's then girlfriend.

YouCantTourniquetTheTaint · 22/12/2021 00:38

JFC a thread about sexual assault and people are more concerned about fucking spoilers, give your heads a fucking wobble Hmm

Seeing as there are articles about his behaviour towards his wife in the 90's it's very possible that he is very charming when he wants to be, at work for example, then a predator towards women when he's on his own time. We see it repeatedly with abusers, they're positively charming to everyone else, but towards their target, nope.

mclaw · 22/12/2021 00:41

They would have been better to say nothing.

that's not an option in today's world

OhWhyNot · 22/12/2021 01:05

His aggressive past towards an ex has been known about for years

And there have been internet rumours for sometime

People are happy to turn a blind eye when it suits them and producers will back then until it looks bad on them and agents will cover up stories

Look how many were quick to claim they knew nothing about Weinstein or support and work with Polanski knowing what he did Hmm

ftw163532 · 22/12/2021 01:21

I vote we change it too "believe woman after an unbiased investigative process supports their claims"

No such investigative process or criminal legal process exists, so do you have a proposal up your sleeve to replace the current systems in order to create this?

There is plenty of evidence demonstrating that the investigative process deployed in response to reports of rape is a long way from unbiased (it is biased against victims), so presumably that process cannot be what you are referring to here.

It's also not "some convictions" being missed, it's 0.5% of rapists being convicted and 99.5% of rapists being left free and unencumbered by consequences of any kind.

While 100% of victims are left more traumatised and more damaged by a system that starts from the position of blaming them and continues that way throughout the entire legal process. Again, evidence supports this as the outcome of the US and UK approach to dealing with rape reports.

No reasonable person would support such a failing system.

Our rape laws and rape processes were created by the people who rape in order to serve their needs. They not only fail rape victims but cause damage to them as a matter of course (not an occasional exception, but routinely by design). If that weren't the case "believe women" stances would not be necessary.

Your ignorance is spectacular.

SickAndTiredAgain · 22/12/2021 06:54

@EachandEveryone

Where has it ever been said that SJP and Chris Noth are friends? Ive followed for ages and shes never appeared on his social media or mentioned him until the show needed promoting. Unlike Andy Cohen who seems like her genuine close friend.
He said he’s “very close” to SJP, in response to a question about her falling out with Kim Cattrall. I don’t know if it’s been said elsewhere before, and this was said just before AJLT premiered so could easily have been just an answer for the journalist. He didn’t say it off his own bat.
Borland · 22/12/2021 08:41

@CoffeeMuggins

I guess you really don't read the news at all

I do, I just don't give any attention to shite.

And yet you are whinging about a spoiler for possibly the shite-est show on at the air at the moment 😂
rookiemere · 22/12/2021 08:55

Well if it's not an option not to comment on an as yet untried court case, good luck with finding an impartial jury.

NandorTheRelentless · 22/12/2021 08:59

@CarButtonCloth

I know this isn't the point of the thread but that's a pretty HUGE spoiler for someone who hasn't yet seen the programme (ie me!)
Actually it is massively relevant to the thread.

There is the question that did his being removed from the show happen because of the allegations or not. That's the story that's been all over the news

For me, I don't think it was, as SATC mainly was about Carrie and her dating/lovelife and angst. Its not drama if she is all loved up and happy and comfortable.

AlternativePerspective · 22/12/2021 08:59

Fgs posting about an already aired series is not spoiling it for anyone.

Once a series has been aired it’s fair game. And the title of the thread made it fairly clear who it was about so if people didn’t want to read about it they shouldn’t have clicked on it.

NandorTheRelentless · 22/12/2021 09:09

It is everywhere, because of the hype of the show, and the anticipation and then such a big thing at the start.

I agree though if you don't want spoilers (which in my view are not spoilers if it has been aired in your country) don't open threads or articles about the show or people in it