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Would you cancel this day out?

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wouldyoucancel · 18/12/2021 19:26

Tickets for panto tomorrow, big theatre, (1400 seats and said it’s sold out) . The theatre have emailed saying they’ll have the doors open throughout and masks to stay on but no social distancing other than when arriving and leaving, potentially . We are sitting at the very far back of the ground floor .

Also due to be going to Nando’s after (which I imagine will be a thousand times safer and probably empty!) . Will have to take a bus to get there and walk through a usually very busy shopping centre.

I’m in two minds about going . Two of us are double vaccinated, booster due on Monday . One has had three vaccines . All three vulnerable/additional health issues and one over 55 (and not had a booster) . I’m seriously overweight and have previously had pleurisy pneumonia/tend to get a bad chest most winters, though I’m under 40 .

I’m in two minds about going and dithering over cancelling altogether, or just going to Nando’s, it’s the theatre worrying me .

Friends work in A&E and for covid GP services and ICU and are saying it’s manic just now .

I don’t know if we should cancel altogether, I don’t know what would be safest . WWYD?

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FakeFruitShoot · 19/12/2021 07:35

Thanks @twosticksandanapple

"Growing 70 times faster" isn't anything like the same as 70 times more transmissible, which is what most of us understand "70x more infectious" to mean. It means once you've got it it gets to work more quickly. It's 4.2 times more transmissible (still very significant) www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-12-09/omicron-four-times-more-transmissible-than-delta-in-japan-study

The study you shared, while sobering, still does not show 100% chance of being symptomatic if you've had 2x AZ though. Given that many unvaccinated people are
asymptomatic anyway, and that this suggests around 8 or 9% efficacy of 2x AZ at preventing symptoms (which is still absurdly low, and no reason for complacency), there is definitely not a 100% chance of developing symptoms with omicron. Probably 85-90% or so, still not worth the risk IMO but not the same as 100%.

I am sorry to nitpick but I think people are scared enough and precision matters.

BitterTits · 19/12/2021 08:14

@FakeFruitShoot

Oh, it's found to multiply 70 times faster in the bronchial tubes

which I guess means symptoms will appear more quickly after infection and LFTs and PCRs will show as positive more quickly.

It's about 4.2 times more infectious.

That being true, I will still probably catch it in my classroom in January, so I'd still be happy to take the risk and catch it having fun.

FakeFruitShoot · 19/12/2021 08:17

@BitterTits thank you for being there for our kids. I really hope you have a fun and peaceful couple of weeks.

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delilahbucket · 19/12/2021 08:17

There are that many people who will cancel, the theatre will be empty. I would go, in fact we are on Friday, after last year's being postponed. It's different where I live though, cases are really low.

WhatAHexIGotInto · 19/12/2021 08:29

That being true, I will still probably catch it in my classroom in January, so I'd still be happy to take the risk and catch it having fun.

Ah well, never mind who you pass it on to while you're having fun then. Always the priority over other people's health ...

I daresay I'll also catch it in my classroom in January, I'll still do my best to protect those around me in the interim.

BitterTits · 19/12/2021 08:29

Thank you @FakeFruitShoot. It's mostly a pleasure.

BitterTits · 19/12/2021 08:32

@WhatAHexIGotInto

That being true, I will still probably catch it in my classroom in January, so I'd still be happy to take the risk and catch it having fun.

Ah well, never mind who you pass it on to while you're having fun then. Always the priority over other people's health ...

I daresay I'll also catch it in my classroom in January, I'll still do my best to protect those around me in the interim.

Passive aggression is something I teach my students not to use. I'm not prepared to cancel my plans for the benefit of a society that hasn't protected me, no. It's the sad consequence of treating those of us working in supermarkets, schools and the hospitality industry as if we're just warm bodies.

icedcoffees · 19/12/2021 08:33

[quote girlmom21]@icedcoffees we obviously move in different circles because the majority of the people I know would take a LFT before attending such events [/quote]
Well, like I say, I don't know anyone IRL who takes LFT's anywhere near as often as people on MN claim to do.

People just go out and live their lives here. Yes, masks are worn if and when necessary by law but otherwise it all feels very normal.

happytoday73 · 19/12/2021 08:35

I agree with PP that many won't do a covid test... We have voluntary LFT testing by nurse at work and hardly anyone came for testing after Wednesday this week that would normally come as 'they are trying to not mess up their Christmas' if don't have symptoms.
Am sure numbers will be even lower next week

WhatAHexIGotInto · 19/12/2021 08:38

I'm not prepared to cancel my plans for the benefit of a society that hasn't protected me, no.

Wow ...

SummerBluez · 19/12/2021 08:40

Absolutely go. Have fun, live life.

BitterTits · 19/12/2021 08:45

@WhatAHexIGotInto

I'm not prepared to cancel my plans for the benefit of a society that hasn't protected me, no.

Wow ...

What's your problem? We're not in a lockdown (yet), I go to work every day - why are you bitching at me about not being prepared to cancel all my plans if I don't have to? I'm not a fucking martyr.

WhatAHexIGotInto · 19/12/2021 08:56

What's your problem? We're not in a lockdown (yet), I go to work every day - why are you bitching at me about not being prepared to cancel all my plans if I don't have to? I'm not a fucking martyr.

So don't then, carry on as you are @BitterTits it doesn't mean that everyone will agree with you. You don't have to be a 'fucking martyr' to give a shit about the people around you. This whole situation has been horrendous for most people and we're all sick of covid but I still want to keep my loved ones safe nor do I want to pass it on to any of my students when we go back, even if there's more chance that one of them gives it to me.

Honestly, just reading this thread I'm so over what other people do. We're all just doing what gets us through at the end of the day and you and I are no different in that respect.

BitterTits · 19/12/2021 09:06

Stop targeting me for responding to a thread about whether or not posters would or wouldn't go to a panto. Yes I would. You are no better than me.

MimiSunshine · 19/12/2021 09:07

@wouldyoucancel

We’re going to the quieter Nando’s and for a very quick browse around the shops, M&S, not going to the theatre . Decided between the three of us it wouldn’t be worth trying . Lost £100 or so but as someone said up thread we’d have lost that money anyway so doesn’t feel too bad .

That’s daft. You’re just as likely to catch Covid in any of those places as you are the theatre. Cancel and don’t go out or do go out and just go to the theatre where you’ll be sat still and not randomly touching things in m&s or brushing last unknowingly infected people

ThatsMySantaHisBeardIsSoFluffy · 19/12/2021 09:16

We're all just doing what gets us through at the end of the day and you and I are no different in that respect.

Which is why @BitterTits is going to go out and fun, which she is legally entitled to do, during her well-deserved break from work. If you choose to not do things you're legally-entitled to do, then that's your choice, but berating others for making a different choice is just wrong, frankly. Get over yourself.

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wouldyoucancel · 19/12/2021 09:53

It’s not that I think going to M&S is 100% safe, it’s ever so slightly less risk I think - panto means sitting in a usually very stuffy theatre with potentially 1400 others (friends have said when they’ve gone it’s been packed out) for two and a half hours, shouting etc encouraged … vs going into the shops, which on a Sunday are normally empty anyway … easier to keep your distance in shops, avoid busy ones, get in and out and people more likely to wear masks .

I think, hope … dunno what the other answer is, to stay inside again until it’s all calmed down again? But did that for 95% of 2020 and well into 2021 - didn’t go out at all other than walks late at night from March 2020 through to July 2020 and then didn’t go to a cinema, shopping centre or restaurant until June 2021 (anxiety (diagnosed OCD) is a bugger) … trying to weigh up what’s a good idea and what’s not is a bloody nightmare.

I dunno, either way I’ll spend the next few weeks worrying I’ve got it . Be glad to get booster on Monday but they don’t work for 2/3 weeks do they?

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wouldyoucancel · 19/12/2021 09:55

It does come down to personal choice 100%, anxiety’s just a twat that ruins everything and manages to suck the fun out of most events at the moment !!

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WhatAHexIGotInto · 19/12/2021 11:22

Stop targeting me for responding to a thread about whether or not posters would or wouldn't go to a panto. Yes I would. You are no better than me.

Oh calm down @BitterTits and stop trying to make out you're some kind of victim. No one's 'targetting' you for responding to a thread. You responded to a thread. I responded to your post. That's how forums work so there's really no need for the hyperbole.

OnGoldenPond · 19/12/2021 16:06

If I could go I definitely would. However will be isolating due to positive test until Christmas Eve so sadly nothing like this on the cards for me

Luredbyapomegranate · 20/12/2021 19:31

I wouldn’t go.

It could wreck Christmas plus some of you are vulnerable

NellieBertram · 20/12/2021 19:34

I would only go to anything busy/crowded right now if you are willing to catch covid.

If you are in any way hoping to avoid it, don't go.

Floralnomad · 20/12/2021 19:38

If you are all vulnerable why have you not had your boosters by now ? FWIW if you are going to go to the shops and restaurant you may as well go to the theatre .

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