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Muslims and back ache

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Dilbertian · 13/11/2021 20:33

My back has seized up and I've spent the day alternating between lying on a heat pad and moving around trying to mobilise. And it got me wondering... are practicing Muslims who pray five times a day more or less prone to back problems? Do the movements of prayer help?

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NuffSaidSam · 13/11/2021 21:08

This is the one of the best questions I've ever seen asked on mumsnet 😂

I can't wait to find out the answer

Dilbertian · 13/11/2021 21:11

@Clun

As an atheist, I don’t believe in back pain.

It’s all not in the mind.

Do you accept converts? GrinGrin
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MobyDicksTinyCanoe · 13/11/2021 21:12

I know in countries where people squat doing day to day tasks have less problems with arthritis etc.

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PerfectlyUnsuitable · 13/11/2021 21:14

I know many Muslims who pray 5 times a day and still have back pain.

If back pain could be cure or even totally prevented by doing those movements I think we would have found that out a long time ago tbh!

ArblemarchTFruitbat · 13/11/2021 21:15

I can't answer your question, but in my experience you are better off alternating movement with sitting as upright as you can on a hard chair (e.g. dining chair). That always sorts my back out if it seizes up. Lying down seems to make it worse.

godmum56 · 13/11/2021 21:16

I think you'd have to rule out injury caused problems to get an answer.

godmum56 · 13/11/2021 21:17

@MobyDicksTinyCanoe

I know in countries where people squat doing day to day tasks have less problems with arthritis etc.
but surely that depends on the type of arthritis? I'd love to see a research link if you have one?
Musmerian · 13/11/2021 21:18

This is the most ridiculous thread - ffs. And it’s practising with an S.

JaneJeffer · 13/11/2021 21:18

I think you should ask Sinéad O'Connor. She has tried a variety of religions and is currently a Muslim revert so should be able to advise you which one is best for your back.

SofiaMichelle · 13/11/2021 21:20

@Musmerian

This is the most ridiculous thread - ffs. And it’s practising with an S.
What if they're new to it?
gofg · 13/11/2021 21:21

I would suggest going for a long walk OP - I find that to be better for bad backs than anything else.

mumwon · 13/11/2021 21:21

I don't do much exercise (slightly off ops question) but i have always sat on floor with my own dc & my cm ones & now dgs a spitting distance to 70 I can still get up & down - went to mother & toddler group & sitting on floor with dgs younger mum behind me asked me if I wanted a chair & so did one of the organisers when I got there Grin um no don't need one! I have a sense of humour, fortunately!
DH (Muslim) does have back problems as did dfil - so I don't think it necessarily follows - unfortunately

accentdusoleil · 13/11/2021 21:24

Prayer in Islam is more of a mental, spiritual and emotional form of submission. Not really to do with exercise . It may help relieve tension though.

whataboutbob · 13/11/2021 21:42

I think it’s a perfectly reasonable question and I bet most of those rushing to take offence are not Muslim. I have back pain from WFH and digging my allotment, to help I do stretches form a sports exercise book and some ressemble Islamic prayer postures ( I’m not Muslim but grew up in a Muslim country where men often prayed outdoors in case anyone is wondering).

RobertaFirmino · 13/11/2021 21:44

I don't know why OP is getting a pasting, researchers at Binghampton University have studied this. Apparently, salat is very good for the back. They don't just sit prostrate for ages though, they start standing up and also kneel and bow.

aboutislam.net/muslim-issues/science-muslim-issues/prayer-movements-reduce-back-pain/

DaisyNGO · 13/11/2021 21:48

Some pf the prostrations you see in Hindu and Buddhist temples look like they need a good level of strength and flexibility to do.

PotteringAlong · 13/11/2021 21:49

I think it’s a really interesting question! The movement in some ways is very similar to yoga, which is a form of Hindu worship (even if most people in the west who perform yoga don’t recognise it as such) and thus the physical, combined with medical benefits must be comparable. If you accept that prayer is a whole mind and body combination then why not.

@Dilbertian thank you so much for asking the question. I’m an RE teacher and I haven’t thought of salat in this way before. It’s given me pause for thought.

steppemum · 13/11/2021 21:55

well, it may be clumsily worded, but it is an interesting point.

If you do a set of exercises 5 x per day which include standing, kneeling, prostrating etc, then does it help you keep flexible and does it help with bad back?

I know quite a few people with bad backs who do very similar. Sets of stretches etc and it helps.

CalamariGames · 13/11/2021 21:57

OP did you have a reason for wondering this or was it just one of those totally random "shower thoughts" that just struck you out of the blue?

Mamacarrot · 13/11/2021 21:58

I dont know. I have never heard of this. But you can pray sitting down if that is the case

NeverDropYourMooncup · 13/11/2021 21:59

It is absolutely exercise to perform salat - and repeated five times a day means that there is gentle, regular movement instead of remaining on a settee or slumped in a crappy office chair for eight hours a day. Add into it the emotional/spiritual aspects along with breathing and you've got something that is a physical and spiritual exercise.

The lovely doctor who lived next door for some years also said that she believed it was also healthier to spend some time squatting as they did to perform household tasks rather than standing up, as it kept the pelvic floor strong, the legs strong and the ankles flexible, thus improving balance compared to people who didn't do those things.

She told me all the major religions had at least at some point in their history a series of positions and movements related to prayer (she specified Islam, Buddhism, Judaism, Christianity, Hinduism) and whilst Christians sang more, that also counted as an exercise in the standing and breathing it required, even if kneeling wasn't as common these days - so in her opinion, the Creator (I loved her way she chose her words to try to be inclusive of me!) had given all people ways to keep their body as well as their soul healthy.

So no, I don't think this is a dodgy or rude question, as it's something I've been told as well.

CommanderBurnham · 13/11/2021 22:02

Ok so I might get deleted for saying this but I myself wonder if Muslims who observe Ramadan have lesser incidence of type II diabetes as they do long fasts for a whole month. I'm Asian and don't fast like that and we have a high incidence of diabetes in our family/wider community.

The benefits of mindfulness and peace that must come from praying so often must have great health benefits too.

OhWhyNot · 13/11/2021 22:03

My ex mil sat to pray as it became too painful for her but she was very old

I think any form of exercise can help with aches and pains and it is a gentle exercise

godmum56 · 13/11/2021 22:03

[quote RobertaFirmino]I don't know why OP is getting a pasting, researchers at Binghampton University have studied this. Apparently, salat is very good for the back. They don't just sit prostrate for ages though, they start standing up and also kneel and bow.

aboutislam.net/muslim-issues/science-muslim-issues/prayer-movements-reduce-back-pain/[/quote]
While i agree its a good question, the actual piece of research is much less definite than the article you linked to. The wording comes nearer to "if you have back pain, there may be ways in which you can perform salat" rather than "if you have back pain performing salat can improve your pain levels"

www.inderscience.com/offer.php?id=81914

Lotusmonster · 13/11/2021 22:11

Long periods of time spent seated on a chair are recognised to be pretty awful for back and posture. So seems reasonable that anything other than sitting, whether in the name of worship or otherwise has got to be better for you.

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