Vaccine refusers and the new pill

[headintheproverbial]

Does it follow that if you don't trust the vaccine that you'd also not trust the new pill which has just been licensed in the UK?

Because you're not a guinea pig
Because you don't trust the speed of release
Because you're scared it's a hoax from big pharma?
Because...?

Because it’s being promoted by the Government and they are all self serving, lying bastards. #tongueincheekemoji#

Not everyone "refusing" the vaccine is doing so for the reasons you have listed.
I would take the pill if it was needed.

I wouldn’t take the pill for the same reason I don’t take the vaccine or any other medication... it will have been tested on animals.

As soon as we stop testing medicines on animals, which is unnecessary anyway, I’ll have all the vaccines and pills I’m offered.

There’s a lot of people refusing the vaccine for this reason as well as needle phobia, anxiety etc.

My son has serious allergic reactions to medications, Steven-Johnson syndrome, has had pericarditis associated with his last childhood immunizations, and has an autoimmune condition yet doesn’t qualify for an exemption…
He’s not refusing the vaccine for fun, btw had to quit work.

If the pills is only given if you get the virus. I would prefer it to take it only if needed over having a booster every year.

No

a pill....how often?

the vaccine is now at the booster stage, with a 4th babe being talked about

it goes on and on

When it comes to the people you’ve listed in your op (and not those who are mentioned by other posters), I would suspect it will come down to their ‘risk vs reward’ analysis.

Catching Covid is not guaranteed (although highly likely we all will at some point). The same goes for becoming seriously ill. Mild to moderate for most people’ was repeated day in, day out at the press conference. To those who are wary of the vaccine, the ‘risk’ of Covid is completely hypothetical. They don’t believe they’ll catch it, and if they do they don’t believe it will be serious. So to them, taking the vaccine has very little ‘reward’. That just leaves the vaccine ‘risks’. Since they don’t believe they stand to gain anything from the vaccine, all the ‘risks’ will seem magnified.

HOWEVER, once a person has become ill enough to require medical intervention, the risk/reward balance completely changes. Suddenly Covid isn’t a hypothetical risk, they’re actually ill. Now that the risk in tangible, the potential ‘reward’ from taking something new/unknown, becomes more obvious. The situation is (potentially) life or death, if that’s the case the ‘reward’ of surviving is probably greater than the unknown ‘risks’.

*vaccine!!!

@LivingNextDoorToNorma

When it comes to the people you’ve listed in your op (and not those who are mentioned by other posters), I would suspect it will come down to their ‘risk vs reward’ analysis.

Catching Covid is not guaranteed (although highly likely we all will at some point). The same goes for becoming seriously ill. Mild to moderate for most people’ was repeated day in, day out at the press conference. To those who are wary of the vaccine, the ‘risk’ of Covid is completely hypothetical. They don’t believe they’ll catch it, and if they do they don’t believe it will be serious. So to them, taking the vaccine has very little ‘reward’. That just leaves the vaccine ‘risks’. Since they don’t believe they stand to gain anything from the vaccine, all the ‘risks’ will seem magnified.

HOWEVER, once a person has become ill enough to require medical intervention, the risk/reward balance completely changes. Suddenly Covid isn’t a hypothetical risk, they’re actually ill. Now that the risk in tangible, the potential ‘reward’ from taking something new/unknown, becomes more obvious. The situation is (potentially) life or death, if that’s the case the ‘reward’ of surviving is probably greater than the unknown ‘risks’.

What utter nonsense. I’m really not sure why you have decided that people who are wary of the injections think they won’t catch it or that it would be serious if they did. That’s definitely not reasons people have given. I won’t list all their actual concerns but they are very easy to find.

“What utter nonsense.
I’m really not sure why you have decided that people who are wary of the injections think they won’t catch it or that it would be serious if they did.
That’s definitely not reasons people have given. I won’t list all their actual concerns but they are very easy to find.”

Yes the actual concerns are very easy to find. A 5 second google brought up this ONS survey on the reasons for covid vaccine refusal.

www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/healthandsocialcare/healthandwellbeing/bulletins/covid19vaccinerefusaluk/februarytomarch2021#main-themes-for-concern-about-or-unwillingness-to-receive-a-covid-19-vaccine

Under “Main themes for concern about or unwillingness to receive a COVID-19 vaccine” it states “The second primary reason was that participants did not feel the COVID-19 vaccines were necessary. Participants who held this belief often felt that they could protect themselves against COVID-19 by maintaining their own health and a strong immune system, or by taking steps to avoid catching COVID-19 in the first place.”

I mean genuine people writing about their genuine concerns. Not something made up/twisted by the government

@Sugarandtime

I mean genuine people writing about their genuine concerns. Not something made up/twisted by the government

You believe the government completely fabricated a survey?

You hear people on here all the time saying they won't catch COVID anyway as they're "being careful". Same with pregnant women and the flu vaccine; there are women on here literally every single year saying "I'm super healthy and I never catch flu anyway..."

I don’t believe I won’t catch it. I do what I can to keep myself healthy but I know anyone can catch it. I think my chances of being extremely ill from it are low, but I know sometimes low risk people are very ill with it.

Not everyone who doesn’t want the vaccine... or pill is deluded. I’m not, I just choose not to have it due to my own principles.

@Sugarandtime Are you going to enlighten us as to what to “genuine people’s genuine concerns” are then?
I’m clearly just a simpleton sucked in by the mainstream media and government propaganda so would appreciate your well-thought out take on this.

WildExcuses I don’t doubt that for a second. I do however believe that people make different decisions based on the situation at the time. A vaccine to prevent, and a pill to cure are not the same thing. And i disagree with the ops implication that those who wouldn’t be comfortable taking the vaccine as a precaution, shouldn’t accept the pill as a cure.

My brother is an very strict vegan and has declined various medical treatments based on these beliefs. That was until following years of therapy, he attempted suicide. To him then, the medication that he’d previously declined due to its animal derivatives, seemed more appealing that losing his life. It never once made me question his principles.

The best personal example I can give is my own child. When dc was a baby, they were poorly. While admitted to hospital, a paediatrician asked to prescribe medication, that at the time was unlicensed to children. Had that been suggested for teething pain, chicken pox itching etc, I would have declined. The risk would not have felt worth it at all. However when they were laid very poorly in a hospital bed, those priorities changed. The reality of what was happening without the medication seemed far more risky, than letting the doctor give that ‘unknown’ medicine.

People who make one decision, should not be held to it forever. I absolutely believe that anyone who declines the vaccine for ANY reason should be able to accept any treatment should they become poorly. Without having to justify why.

Thingstodo

As stated earlier, I will not list all of their reasons but it is very easy to find them and enlighten yourself as no doubt you already know.