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Alex Baldwin

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Luckytattie · 22/10/2021 14:56

What an absolutely horrific thing to happen. This is like Brandon Lee all over again.
I cannot imagine what Alec is feeling right now :(

Absolutely awful and I feel so sorry for the woman who has tragically died.

what I don't understand is how a prop gun can fire bullets and if it is a prop gun...why are there bullets?

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Luckytattie · 22/10/2021 14:56

Alec*

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Mooey89 · 22/10/2021 14:56

I agree. It’s so awful. I can’t quite understand how it could happen.

TinnedPotatoesRock · 22/10/2021 14:58

Yep, already a few posts on here about it

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Luckytattie · 22/10/2021 14:59

Oh I did have a look but couldn't see anything.

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TinnedPotatoesRock · 22/10/2021 15:16

I've just tried to find them but can't either, maybe they've been pulled?

Sorry Smile

Biancadelrioisback · 22/10/2021 15:20

Well apparently blanks can still kill due to the pressure of the air being fired out. They need to be calibrated just right depending on where the target is standing, so if you fired a blank too close to someone it can cause serious injuries and death.
I think that is what happened to Brandon Lee? I'm sure it was a blank?

Thing is, no matter what, if you are holding a gun, you need to be aware what could happen if you pulled the trigger, whether you believe it to be unloaded, prop gun or whatever. There is always a chance that something can go wrong.

Not sure why he was pointing a gun (prop or not) at the crew anyways let alone pulling the trigger?

Poor woman who died and the director who was injured. I do feel for Baldwin but my main thoughts and sympathies are with their families.

Finfintytint · 22/10/2021 15:21

I think if the gun malfunctioned then the blank casing will shatter and cause injury.

SoupDragon · 22/10/2021 15:25

I think that is what happened to Brandon Lee? I'm sure it was a blank?

I think I read this morning that, in that case, the previous cartridge had got stuck in the chamber and fired out when the gun was next used.

Truly awful.

HoldingTheDoor · 22/10/2021 15:27

I've just tried to find them but can't either, maybe they've been pulled?

Tragedy on Alec Baldwin's film set
http://www.mumsnet.com/Talk/_chat/4381459-Tragedy-on-Alec-Baldwins-film-set

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Luckytattie · 22/10/2021 16:30

Yes o think in Brandon's case there was actually a bullet or a shell or something.

Alec apparently said in a jokey way about shooting them both so it sounds like it was just him playing about. He absolutely wouldn't have shot if he thought it would kill or injure someone.
I just think it's totally shocking. And someone took a photo of him after the incident where he is bent over. I wish twitter didn't show stuff like that.

Awful all round.

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Totallydefeated · 22/10/2021 16:33

Absolutely awful situation all round. Poor woman. Poor child and husband who lost her. Poor Alec. Dreadful.

bestcattoyintheworld · 22/10/2021 16:38

Ds2 does firearms training with cadets and they're always taught never to point a gun at anyone, even if it's unloaded. Joking around is totally against all the rules of firearms handling and any gun should be treated as though it's loaded and can harm.

wolfstarling · 22/10/2021 16:39

A very sad day. I feel for everyone involved in this terrible accident - especially Halyna Hutchins RIP.

He has just tweeted so sad. Sad

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Luckytattie · 22/10/2021 16:42

Yes it is but I guess if you really think it's empty then that's the only time you'd do it.

Although, I remember my dad had an air pistol and my brother picked it up and pointed it at me and the fear I felt...it was crazy.
There wasn't anything in it but just even having a gun pointed at you is scary in itself.

I know blanks can kill from air pressure but it kind of sounds like he was further away from them? Not sure

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Luckytattie · 22/10/2021 16:45

Oh @wolfstarling what did he say? I can't see it

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AmDillDandin · 22/10/2021 16:47

I would have thought that the gun was fired as part of filming, rather than any horseplay. Especially considering that the two victims were cinematographer and director, I presumed they'd been framing a shot (of the shot, as it were)

Not seen anything official though.

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Luckytattie · 22/10/2021 16:47

Sorry I see it.

God so sorry for all involved. Her husband and son :(

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Luckytattie · 22/10/2021 16:48

@AmDillDandin there is an account of what happened. I think the sheriff released a bit about it or it could be false but it said Alex jokingly said something like "how about I shoot the pair of ya"
Before redoing a scene or something

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bestcattoyintheworld · 22/10/2021 16:52

Even if you know for sure it's empty, you still don't point it at anyone. It's a blanket rule.

MsWalterMitty · 22/10/2021 16:52

@bestcattoyintheworld

Ds2 does firearms training with cadets and they're always taught never to point a gun at anyone, even if it's unloaded. Joking around is totally against all the rules of firearms handling and any gun should be treated as though it's loaded and can harm.
Films would be pretty crap if they couldn’t point guns at each other during fun scenes
MsWalterMitty · 22/10/2021 16:52

@Biancadelrioisback

Well apparently blanks can still kill due to the pressure of the air being fired out. They need to be calibrated just right depending on where the target is standing, so if you fired a blank too close to someone it can cause serious injuries and death. I think that is what happened to Brandon Lee? I'm sure it was a blank?

Thing is, no matter what, if you are holding a gun, you need to be aware what could happen if you pulled the trigger, whether you believe it to be unloaded, prop gun or whatever. There is always a chance that something can go wrong.

Not sure why he was pointing a gun (prop or not) at the crew anyways let alone pulling the trigger?

Poor woman who died and the director who was injured. I do feel for Baldwin but my main thoughts and sympathies are with their families.

A lot of speculating going here!
bestcattoyintheworld · 22/10/2021 16:54

Films would be pretty crap if they couldn’t point guns at each other during fun scenes

Well they need to accept that fatal accidents are part of the risk of having firearms on set.

milveycrohn · 22/10/2021 17:03

The case I remember is the TV series 'Cover Up', as used to watch it. (1980s). The actor, Jon-Erik Hexum, did the same thing. That is, in his case, he was apparently mucking about and fired a blank directly into his own head. (They were on set and there were witnesses).
Unfortunately, what he did not realise is that the force of the air discharged from the blank, is sufficient to cause an injury if fired close to the body, and sadly he died.
He was replaced by another actor, after his death.
Obviously we do not know the circumstances in this latest death, so should probably not speculate.

CampagVelocet · 22/10/2021 17:06

He appears to have been pointing the gun at a member of the production team - perhaps two members. Not members of the cast or fellow actors. I'm struggling to see how this happened.

pumpkinpal · 22/10/2021 17:09

As the producer of the film, he is going to be held liable for this. Buck stops with the producer

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