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Grandad dying in hospital, granny lives separately but still married, no will, but potentially large estate, does it matter if aunt Claire is emptying his house now of documents?

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KitchenKrisis · 19/10/2021 19:58

Huge panic because grandad is probably not going to leave hospital and whilst he is still married people have started to empty the house?..

Does it matter if they take documents or not!

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KitchenKrisis · 19/10/2021 19:59

Granny lives around the corner and is not well herself.

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Shouldbedoing · 19/10/2021 20:00

That sounds illegal. I'd honestly be tempted to call the non emergency police number.

Shouldbedoing · 19/10/2021 20:01

Greedy vultures

HazelandChacha · 19/10/2021 20:02

Stuff shouldn’t even be removed after he has died!

ibuyer.com/blog/can-you-empty-a-house-before-probate/

Aquamarine1029 · 19/10/2021 20:03

I'd call the police. What they're doing is stealing.

OverByYer · 19/10/2021 20:03

Are they next of kin and what documents are they taking?
Do your grandparents have capacity?
Have they asked these people to go in?
You need to get your facts straight before accusing people of wrongdoing

2020isnotbehaving · 19/10/2021 20:05

If there is no will the wife gets it all estranged or not. So documents going missing makes no odds at all though wonder what they are taking!

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KitchenKrisis · 19/10/2021 20:08

Doctors have confirmed capacity.
she tried to say no capacity.
Apparently a piece of paper has been signed saying family can go in and collect documents for the purpose of arranging home help?

Granny is not happy at all and does not want any documents removing... But granny is also unwell! She can't visit the hospital due to covid.
But even if she documents are removed about shares, and property, what advantage would this give them if there is no will and the intention the living spouse inherits 😕

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OverByYer · 19/10/2021 20:12

If granny has capacity and is still next of kin, she needs to get in touch with a solicitor , to put a stop to all of this. I know of a family law solicitor who will do home visits if needed. If they both still have capacity then they need to act quickly to ensure they get what they want.

ChicCroissant · 19/10/2021 20:13

Do you want to ask MNHQ to edit that name out of the title, OP?

Is your Grandmother complaining about her own children?!

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KitchenKrisis · 19/10/2021 20:14

I've made up the name but thanks

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KitchenKrisis · 19/10/2021 20:17

@OverByYer

What type of solicitors would deal with this though?

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KitchenKrisis · 19/10/2021 20:19

To be clear, grandad is really unwell, Claire is giving him non legal stuff to sign, going to the house and trying to empty it of documentes, and granny isn't happy at all.

They want the documents returned.

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OverByYer · 19/10/2021 20:29

Is Claire his daughter? And Granny’s daughter?

I’m not sure what type of solicitor but if you ring one local to you they can point you in the right direction.

Also have a look online at www.gov.uk/courts-tribunals/court-of-protection

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KitchenKrisis · 19/10/2021 21:50

Three dc.
Claire is ruthless, Anne and son Monty who lives abroad.

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jollygreenpea · 19/10/2021 22:56

Granny needs to act quickly before greedy Claire has got Grandad to sign something he shouldn't have, anyone can make a will...

Dillydollydingdong · 19/10/2021 23:00

Suppose there is actually a Will which Claire removes?

safariboot · 20/10/2021 00:56

I'd say that is theft. Claire could easily be planning further fraud too. Conceal/destroy an existing will, forge a new one, hide assets in the hope she can take them for herself, that kind of thing.

OverByYer · 20/10/2021 06:56

Maybe Claire is doing what her father is asking her to do. These situations are very complex. You need to get your facts straight before accusing people. Your mother / father need to be asking your grandparents what they want to do.

Pemmican · 20/10/2021 07:01

Three children, a large estate and no will?

Silly grandad.

AdelindSchade · 20/10/2021 07:05

What is he needing a home help for if not going home? Sounds like they are trying to arrange a package of care and may need financial details for this.

OverByYer · 20/10/2021 07:06

Yes Pemmi

People really need to get these things sorted early. I made my will and POA a few years ago

daretodenim · 20/10/2021 07:07

@OverByYer

Maybe Claire is doing what her father is asking her to do. These situations are very complex. You need to get your facts straight before accusing people. Your mother / father need to be asking your grandparents what they want to do.
Absolutely in which case going to the police about things being removed from the home won't be a problem as grandfather - and mother - will be able to tell them they're happy with what she's doing.

I don't see what you can lose by calling the police or seeing a solicitor. Doing nothing, however, could have quite a detrimental result, especially to grandfather's wife.

AdelindSchade · 20/10/2021 07:17

If you think he is being taken advantage of whether he retains capacity or not you should report. You could report to social services also to make sure there are not any safeguarding issues. You need to be clear what your suspicions are based on though.

2Two · 20/10/2021 07:25

Can Granny authorise someone to go in and change the locks?

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