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Edwina Currie on UC being cut

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Fizbosshoes · 08/10/2021 21:55

This week I heard Edwina Currie on the Jeremy Vine show on Radio 2. (I know I am being unreasonable for listening to proffessional shit stirrer JV but the radio is on at work)

There was a single mum (who's partner had been killed in a car crash.) She worked ft and had 2 kids but was going to struggle without the £20 uplift.

Edwina Currie said she sympathised as she remembered how it was when her kids were small juggling budgeting and childcare...
Confused She was an MP and her husband was an accountant- I doubt they were struggling!

Then she said that people should tell their employer they're looking for a job elsewhere and the employer would probably want to keep them on and give them a payrise...Hmm

When challenged that a lot of the jobs available were not suitable for a single parent with childcare to sort out (eg shifts, overnight work in a warehouse etc) she said people needed to be "creative" (wtf does than mean in this instance?) and that most grandparents would love to help.
Then there was a pile on of callers telling people that they were scroungers and "to get a job".

Its literally like they're willfully not listening or sticking their fingers in their ears and saying "la la la la la not listening" and just coming out with patronising BS.

The original caller did work full time and was still struggling.
Not everyone has grandparents...at all ...or nearby, or maybe the GPS are working themselves...or don't want to do full time, or overnight childcare (not unreasonable). And where are all the employers falling over themselves to give people a payrise...? Some businesses pay NMW to cut costs, other businesses won't be able to afford payrises after covid and brexit.

And the assumption that people are sitting around waiting for handouts and that if they could just "upskill" or "better themselves" it would solve the problem....
How can they not hear what people are saying...?

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ssd · 09/10/2021 20:51

So many of us vote snp ,not because we love the snp, but because we are desperate to get away from a never ending right wing tory elitist government and independence seems the only way to do it

If I'm going to get shafted I'd rather it was an arsehole from a Scottish government than a tory boy

bunnybuggs · 09/10/2021 20:57

@CorrBlimeyGG

Also "it was only intended to help during a period of high costs" completely disregards that costs are higher than ever, and only going to get higher.
but it was always temporary and brought in as such and has been extended once already since April Millions of people were given no such uplift of £1000 a year to help with extra costs those who worked on minimum wage pensioners on basic state pension and no other income employees who were furloughed Giving a child something extra and then taking it away even though the child was told it would not be forever - never goes down well.
plesiosaurus · 09/10/2021 21:00

A bit rich suggesting grandparents look after the kids when EC had a famously troubled relationship with her own parents, a nanny, an accountant husband, and an MP's salary.
Also, she got her further education at Oxford and LSE for free, the route of further education while working, with children, has been closed to so many because of the sheer cost of it.
But then she's never been much of one for empathy (too busy shagging John Major, probably Envy)

Heatherjayne1972 · 09/10/2021 21:01

I heard that same interview on JV this week too
Oh how we laughed at the silly woman
Very few people are getting a pay rise at this time And if I stamped my foot and told my boss I was leaving because he didn’t give me a pay rise he’d fill my position so fast your head would spin and still pay out at the current rate
Has she not heard of covid ?
Or brexit ?

Ricekake · 09/10/2021 21:02

The real issue is that the cost of living, the basics, are sky rocketing, and plenty of people are, or will soon be struggling and not just those on UC. Cynically I agree with a PP that it was probably a tactic to lure people over from legacy benefits, which would see a lot of people worse off in real terms.

WormYourHonour · 09/10/2021 21:03

Millions of people were given no such uplift of £1000 a year to help with extra costs

those who worked on minimum wage

Are likely claiming UC, and if they're not, they should.

Giving a child something extra and then taking it away even though the child was told it would not be forever - never goes down well.

Giving people facts that disproves their lies never goes down well.

Graphista · 09/10/2021 21:28

@vickibee hmm sometimes Angela rayner says stuff I agree with but sometimes she's said pretty offensive stuff too. Eg "women's rights are not in conflict with trans rights"

She's much closer to the kind of Labour Mp that fits in with the kind of person I think should be part of the Labour Party - had a hard start in life, has experienced real challenges, has done a "real" job at least for a while (care work), involved in a union, but she is also something of a career politician having been in political roles from quite early on too

Im know theres eedgits up here too BTW

Oh definitely!

So many of us vote snp ,not because we love the snp, but because we are desperate to get away from a never ending right wing tory elitist government and independence seems the only way to do it

Yep! This applied to me too but the last election for the first time in my life I felt unable to vote (I'm 49) as ALL the major parties are on the bloody stonewall/tra bandwagon!

Plus tbh my snp Mp is a pretty good egg!

I have no issue with trans people in general or even personal terms I even have a few trans friends BUT they are very much not of the TRA type and indeed strongly feel this minority are doing THEM a disservice too by stirring up unnecessary trouble and more discrimination

Cofifeefee · 09/10/2021 21:33

I heard her on GMB and couldn't believe she came out with the MN classic "why don't you just retrain".

ssd · 09/10/2021 22:08

@Cofifeefee

I heard her on GMB and couldn't believe she came out with the MN classic "why don't you just retrain".
Next she'll be telling them to go for a spa day
Tealightsandd · 09/10/2021 22:23

most grandparents would love to help.

Hmmm. So how does that work with the two other old favourites (so often also supported on here). You know, the 'get on your bike' and/or 'if you can't afford to live where you grew up/near support networks, family - and childcare - just move'?

Lots of social housing across the UK would go a long way towards solving the problems.

There would be less need for benefit top-ups (because people wouldn't need super high wages to afford the rent/mortgage), and more people would be able to live near childcare/family/support networks (so could take on more hours).

Obviously not everyone has family able and willing to help, and some people would still need extra help/be unable to work full-time, but it would make a huge difference for many and most certainly would significantly lower the benefit bill.

Fizbosshoes · 09/10/2021 23:27

Next she'll be telling them to go for a spa day

...and take in ironing!

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Graphista · 10/10/2021 00:00

@Tealightsandd

The reason that isn't happening is far too many MPs have their fingers in the housing pie!

Of all colours!

While they do they won't vote for or support more social housing or affordable housing to buy

Because they personally are making far too much money out of high private rents and high house sale prices

Building/refurbishing old homes so there is more social and affordable housing would as you rightly assess bring housing prices down. That's the last thing these greedy MPs (and their cronies) want

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