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DD's friendships...what would you do

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Tulipsfromamsterdam12 · 04/10/2021 23:11

My DD just turned 4. She is very social and outgoing and over the last 6 months or so she's made a number of friends, 2 of them we are meeting weekly for play dates, one girl and one boy.

The girl is exactly the same age as DD, very bright and articulate, but very strong headed and a bit unkind. Overall my DD has enjoyed playing with her, but every time they meet the girl is making my DD cry. She shouts at her and bullies her into doing what she wants. My DD used to tell her to stop shouting or being mean, but now she is becoming a bit more submissive and just goes along with whatever the girl wants. I can tell she is nervois around her. It breaks my heart and I feel like they should not be meeting again. DD still wants to see her, but I don't feel she is benefitting from this friendship.

She loves the other friend who is a boy. They've had amazing times but also some terrible ones too. It's a bit of a hit and miss. When we meet he has this funny hour when his behaviour is very unkind. He runs away from us, and his mum and DD always run after him, every 5 mins of so. He hits his mum, and occasionally DD, can say mean things, throw objects at us etc. I really feel for his mum with whom I have a lot in common, but again my DD has to wait for him to calm down and go through a lot of anxiety and is asking why he doesn't want to play. She's very tolerant and has to put up with a lot before they end up having a good time and I feel again she is not benefitting from this friendship. It's always always on his terms, whatever he wants to do or wherever he wants to go, we usually go along.

The other friends are nice and on more equal terms but we are meeting them rarely due to different schedules.

AIBU for not wanting to meet her regular friends anymore or perhaps meeting them less regularly? I feel like she is becoming more introverted and less assertive and I don't want her to grow up thinking that she has to put up with any kind of behaviour for the sake of having friends.

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Hullbilly · 04/10/2021 23:37

I don't think you can go through school picking their friends and protecting them. My dd was very quiet at 4. It used to really upset me, some of the treatment she received. But it's all learning. She learned to assert herself eventually, which maybe wouldn't have happened had I taken her away from these situations.

Anordinarymum · 04/10/2021 23:37

In life we meet different people, some we get along with and some we do not for many reasons. How will we find the skills to be able to deal with people if we are cushioned as children?

When my daughter was at nursery, one girl attached herself to her, and dominated everything. She decided what they would do and bossed my girl about. She could not handle some situations and often ended up on the teacher's knee crying.
Her mother told me she is her own worst enemy. She was the needy one. My daughter did not need her at all and moved on to play with other children in her own way and the bossy one attached herself to the next person who would let her.

Leave them to it

FlorenciaFlora · 04/10/2021 23:46

Why on earth are you exposing your little daughter to children who bully her and physically hurt her?

You need to teach your dd that it’s not ok for anyone to physically hurt her or bully her. Stop these meet ups and encourage your dd to make other friends.

It’s entirely unacceptable that this boy hurts her while you and his mother look on passively.

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Tulipsfromamsterdam12 · 05/10/2021 00:04

@FlorenciaFlora oh, no! We are not sitting passively watching my DD get hurt. The boy's mum removes him from the situation and makes him apologise to DD. It happened probably 2 - 3 times in 5 months. My DD still wants to meet these friends but I am torn. Of course I don't want her to get hurt in any form.

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Snowdropsandbluebells · 05/10/2021 00:06

At 4 I would quiety remove my child from these situations. They have plenty of time to bud resilience when they are older.

Tulipsfromamsterdam12 · 05/10/2021 05:01

@Snowdropsandbluebells yes, that resonates with how I'm feeling.

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Tulipsfromamsterdam12 · 05/10/2021 09:18

I don't think you can go through school picking their friends and protecting them. My dd was very quiet at 4. It used to really upset me, some of the treatment she received. But it's all learning

I agree with this, however my DD is not at school yet and she met these friends at playgrounds over the summer. I think if they were at school she would probably naturally move away from them and seek children that are more suitable. I just feel like I'm imposing them on her by accepting the play dates, which she never refuses as she probably hopes next time they'll behave better. DD always gets invited as she is so good natured and tolerant, the parents like her too.

It's good to ask for opinions as I'm torn.

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Morgantowers · 05/10/2021 09:24

For now stop playdates with those 2 children. Just tell your daughter you are busy and the same to the parents of these children. Go to the playground and find potential friends by just chatting.

Branleuse · 05/10/2021 09:31

If your daughter wants to play with them then id let her, but i would also supervise closer and gently tell any child off who was being unkind. I dont think its helpful for anyone to start excluding 4 year olds from things just because they get social stuff wrong, as long as the parents arent just ignoring it all and the kids are still having a good time.

PlonkyWillyWonky · 05/10/2021 09:34

@Morgantowers

For now stop playdates with those 2 children. Just tell your daughter you are busy and the same to the parents of these children. Go to the playground and find potential friends by just chatting.
Exactly this Don't try and be the bigger person and just accept their behaviour. Why put your daughter through it when there are other options. You'll have less control when she starts school and you can deal with that then
Babdoc · 05/10/2021 09:42

Maybe you need to be a little more upfront in modelling acceptable behaviour and boundaries, OP?
For example, if a playmate hits your DD, you tell the offender their behaviour is unacceptable “We do NOT hit people!”, insist on an apology, then take DD away. “We don’t play with people who hit us. DD will be back next week if you can behave yourself.”
You need to show that bad behaviour has consequences - that the fun will stop, that DD will leave them on their own. Otherwise there is no incentive to ever improve.
This is vitally important for DD’s future adult life, if she is ever unfortunate enough to have an abusive partner. Lay firm foundations now, show her she deserves respect.

Tulipsfromamsterdam12 · 05/10/2021 09:49

@Babdoc when she got hit, the mum of the offender told him off and insisted on an apology. Same with the girl who shouts. The parents are aware the children are being unkind and they do their bit.

I have been telling DD lately to say stop and not accept unkind behaviour too. The thing is my DD was naturally very assertive in the past. Even before she turned 3, if someone pushed her or ever hurt her by accident she would tell them..'I don't want to play with you as you hurt me'..I was so proud of her. I really don't know what happened to her and whether these unkind friends have had an impact!

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Tulipsfromamsterdam12 · 05/10/2021 22:58

Thank you for your input, it really helped my decision. I've asked Mnet to remove this post now, as it may a bit outing.

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