Any care home staff on here going to be sacker because refuse to get vaccinated?

[Reallyimeanreally2022]

Just curious.

Head interview this morning. Ceo is care home chain employing 2.5 thousand staff. 33 will be sacked.

If you’re going to be sacked, what will you do?!

Not me but I really really hope that some of those 33 decide to get jabbed after all. What they do is extremely important and I’m sure they’re great at what they do.
Whilst I don’t necessarily agree with them being sacked, I do think anyone working in the health or cafe sectors should be vaccinated.

Why would they refuse to receive a vaccination? Some people may be exempt due to allergy risk or whatever, but not many. Just get the jab, it's not difficult.

I bet they all received their childhood vaccinations.

@rocklamp

Why would they refuse to receive a vaccination? Some people may be exempt due to allergy risk or whatever, but not many. Just get the jab, it's not difficult.

I bet they all received their childhood vaccinations.

I’ve been jabbed, but I don’t think those who don’t want to be jabbed are all necessarily crazy anti-vaxxers.

I know someone who is wary of the vaccine, she’s not nuts - she’s just doesn’t think she has enough information to feel comfortable with having the vaccine. Her body, her choice.

I thought you could get out of having the jab by saying you are not refusing, just waiting for x amount of time/years to elapse for the clinical trials to be completed?

I know a couple of care workers who have left their jobs because of this, they didn’t wait round to be sacked and I can’t blame them for that. They’re both settled in other jobs now. They understand why the sector has insisted on vaccinations and were at first very sad when they realised they’d have to leave as they’d both worked in care for many years. But as individuals they’re now happier, less stress and better pay. It’s a shame for the care homes they worked in though as they’ve lost good staff.

At the moment I believe carers working in the community ie. visiting people at home, aren’t required to be vaccinated. So it was thought that some carers may move from care homes to homecare.

@Mariell

I thought you could get out of having the jab by saying you are not refusing, just waiting for x amount of time/years to elapse for the clinical trials to be completed?

Not according to this interview with ceo of care homes

I really think they are taking advantage of care workers. Why should they be pressured into putting something into their bodies that they don't want! Considering as well the rate of pay that many care workers get...they are treat poorly with bad contracts and poor sick leave yet are expected to put aside themselves constantly. They do that every day when they care for the people we can't manage to care for!

well all care home residents have to have the jab, so why not staff. My adult dc has severe lds and normally refuses things like the flu jab. even she had it.

@SuperstarDog

I know a couple of care workers who have left their jobs because of this, they didn’t wait round to be sacked and I can’t blame them for that. They’re both settled in other jobs now. They understand why the sector has insisted on vaccinations and were at first very sad when they realised they’d have to leave as they’d both worked in care for many years. But as individuals they’re now happier, less stress and better pay. It’s a shame for the care homes they worked in though as they’ve lost good staff.

This is what I have seen too. I can imagine only a minority actually wait to be dismissed. Probably in hopes the government see sense, that the under paid, valued and over worked carers are indeed real people with autonomy and the care industry really can't afford to loose them.

It’s a bit daft really given there’s not exactly an abundance of people willing to work in care.

Maybe it's a government guilt trip, being seen to be doing the right thing, after the disastrous and disgraceful way carehome residents were left to die and staff were left to get on with trying to deal with covid with no support, no equipment, no ppe and no staff. If covid rips through carehomes again who will they blame, the staff who refused to have the vaccine?

I am absolutely pro-vaccine but I find this infuriating treatment of low-paid workers. Are they forcing doctors to do this - no. A lot of younger women have fertility concerns and are unlikely to be extremely ill. The balance of risk isn’t the same for them as elderly residents.

I’ve just been very ill and in hospital for weeks following catching covid from one of my PA’s. Thank God I caught it now and not last year as now there are medicines developed to help. I suspect two drugs saved my life, plus the vaccine of course.

Gutting as I’ve been shielding for so, so long, & last year DS had to shield too so he could be near me (single parent with no support network so we tried it with me isolating from him snd his mental health plummeted. Hard choices).

Anyway, I don’t blame my lovely PA, but it really rams it home. I almost died, he was ill for 3 days. He doesn’t know where he got it from, he was being careful too.

Soooo, I can understand wanting to protect vulnerable people in any way possible to avoid bringing them into contact with the virus unnecessarily.

The question is, does the vaccine cut the transmission rate of the virus? For me that’s the all important factor. That should be driving this rule… and then the rule should be applied to all healthcare staff, not just carers. And should have tight but fair exemptions too.