Would it work for carers who don't want a covid jab I wonder..?

[YogaLite]

If carers are considering leaving the profession, would it work if they could be employed privately?

I for example would consider employing someone privately for my disabled DS although on the part time basis.

Just wondering if anyone more knowledgeable can see any pitfalls?

The main pitfall is they could more readily suffer from severe symptoms and pass on the virus.

But why would they still be at work that day if they had symptoms? Sick people tend to stay at home, especially those who work with the vulnerable as there’s hundreds of different viruses they could pass on.
“Fully vaccinated” people seem to catch on and pass the wuflu as much as anyone. If anything, having fewer/no symptoms makes them more of a theoretical danger as it makes them truly an “asymptomatic case”.

@SweetBabyCheeses99

But why would they still be at work that day if they had symptoms? Sick people tend to stay at home, especially those who work with the vulnerable as there’s hundreds of different viruses they could pass on. “Fully vaccinated” people seem to catch on and pass the wuflu as much as anyone. If anything, having fewer/no symptoms makes them more of a theoretical danger as it makes them truly an “asymptomatic case”.

Symptoms don't usually appear on day one so they could pass on covid before symptoms arise

Indeed.

More likely to transmit covid to caree due to higher viral load compared with vaccinated
More likely to be absent from job due to greater chance of catching covid and greater chance of being ill for longer
Unable to enter various places with their caree (if vaccine passports are introduced)

Yes.

Individuals can employ carers as Personal assistants using direct payments or paying privately. As the employer you can set your own rules then, that might include not requiring them to be vaccinated against covid
So that's privately domicilary care work which can be few hours/ week or a live in care model if have sufficient funds/needs.

What the carer can't do is work at a care home, Cqc registered care agency nor in an NHS hospital

So by far the majority of care work carers would lose their livelihoods if they refuse to be vaccinated. The unions are watching closely to see how this plays out and affect those who have medical reasons to refuse vaccinations or reasons that may fall under the Equality Act. I'm sure we will hear more.

You asked for the pitfalls if your privately employed personal assistant isn't vaccinated against covid.
They are more at risk of catching and becoming ill from COVID.

In terms of pitfalls, they are likely to struggle to get work as there are less people who employ privately and they won't be able to working for a CQC registered agency, nor in a care home or NHS hospital even for bank shifts.

Employee demand is very high right now, people who could do care work will just do other jobs instead.

So care-industry will have worse staff shortages (leading to poorer quality of care and increased safety risk) & nobody who doesn't want jab loses employment.

Win Win... except to the people who rely on care staff and are supposed to be 'protected' by vaccine mandate.

@lljkk

Employee demand is very high right now, people who could do care work will just do other jobs instead.

So care-industry will have worse staff shortages (leading to poorer quality of care and increased safety risk) & nobody who doesn't want jab loses employment.

Win Win... except to the people who rely on care staff and are supposed to be 'protected' by vaccine mandate.

This is the inevitable outcome. I don't have any loved ones in residential care but I feel anxious at the prospect of it because the current staff shortages are soon to get much, much worse and poor quality care/lack of safety is the inevitable outcome of that. Very worrying.

Thank you.
I can already see the quality of care slipping in the day centre scenario I know and I might have to move my DS away.

I expect it will be a wider problem with very little difference between different places and I expect morale in those who have no choice but to stay to earn the living will drop.

If all your immediate family isn’t double jabbed isn’t one of you dying of covid the obvious pitfall?

Especially if your immune system didn’t make antibodies, which it doesn’t always.

We had to have blood tests before starting university for Hep B, if your titre levels weren’t high enough you got sent back to have another vaccine. That was in a cohort of 20 women mostly 18 and healthy.

@YogaLite

Thank you. I can already see the quality of care slipping in the day centre scenario I know and I might have to move my DS away.

I expect it will be a wider problem with very little difference between different places and I expect morale in those who have no choice but to stay to earn the living will drop.

I don't get it what it is you are worried about?

DS uses services? Majority of carers will be double vaccinated

So new rules won't affect them nor your DS

Unless you happen to know a carer who is regular Leo worker for your DS that isn't vaccinated?

• key worker not Leo worker!