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Line Manager slating me to department

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BleshRed · 16/09/2021 19:11

I’m head of a department in a school, fairly new to the role as started last year. For the whole of the last year, my line manager has been unkind, cutting and “off” with me. She very snakey, lies about things and tries to create drama. I generally try to ignore it, challenge her on the bigger things and let as much go as I can. I go above and beyond to remain calm, be friendly and positive. Mostly because I don’t know how to handle it really. Today, a few members of my department told me that she’s been going down to their rooms and slating me openly. They say they don’t agree with her point of view and try to stay out of it, remaining quiet. Apparently this morning she was slating me in front of the whole team. I can’t really confront her - she will outright deny it as usual and lie. If I report her to someone else, I’ll have to drag the other members of staff onto it too. I’m so upset and just don’t want to go back to school at all. Any advice?

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Tickledtrout · 16/09/2021 19:15

Get advice from your union. She can tell you don't want to stand up to her- all bullies can. You'll probably have to raise a grievance.

BleshRed · 16/09/2021 19:16

I’m not a member of a union.

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AbbieLexie · 16/09/2021 19:18

Become a member of a union asap

BleshRed · 16/09/2021 19:21

I don’t want to join a union. Is there anything else I can do? Would you confront her? I’m not sure that would be productive really. I’m considering talking to the deputy head and asking for advice.

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DelphiniumBlue · 16/09/2021 19:31

How can you work in a school and not be in a union?
The chances of someone working in a school needing union back up is quite high- think about accidents/allegations against you by pupils or parents, let alone employment issues such as those you are facing right now. Seriously, you should join a union now.
And then look for a new job. If you are not willing to challenge this woman or invoke the bullying policy because you don't want to involve anyone else, then realistically nothing is going to change.

BleshRed · 16/09/2021 19:38

I will definitely look for a new job - there aren’t any out yet but I’m sure something will come up later in the year. I am definitely willing to challenge her, maybe with someone else present?! I could probably say she’s bullying me but she’ll lie and a lot of it would be her word against mine. Im thinking of asking to change to a new line manager if I go to SLT and explain the situation.

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Bobojangles · 16/09/2021 19:45

Join a union, seriously

RampantIvy · 16/09/2021 19:46

What are your objections to joining a union? Religious?

Heyha · 16/09/2021 19:50

Don't make life even more difficult for yourself by trying to solve it yourself, join a union. And join before you do anything else because there are clauses about not being able to help with pre-existing issues I believe.

There are unions that don't strike if that is part of your objection to them.

LaurieFairyCake · 16/09/2021 19:52

Obviously you should be in a teaching union

Make a complaint/grievance- she can't deny it - all the teachers at the meeting will be interviewed and they will confirm it happened Confused

TheWoleb · 16/09/2021 19:54

Join a union.

BleshRed · 16/09/2021 19:56

@LaurieFairyCake what would the likely outcome of that be? Perhaps not a lot other than a lot of stress. I’ve never been through a grievance process - and I’ve been a teacher for 15 years!

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Bobsyer · 16/09/2021 19:57

Confront her.

Say it’s got back to you from more than one member of staff that there are aspects of your work that she’s unhappy about. Therefore you’d like a development meeting with her ASAP to address her concerns. Make sure you take someone with you. Pref her manager.

(If any of that is possible as a teacher).

BleshRed · 16/09/2021 19:59

@Bobsyer I’m thinking of perhaps doing that with the deputy head present, thanks

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AppleKatie · 16/09/2021 20:00
  1. Join a union
  1. Get advise from a friendly member of SLT.
334bu · 16/09/2021 20:05

Please join a union, for the insurance at least.

BleshRed · 16/09/2021 20:06

Thanks everyone but I’ve been really clear that I don’t want to join a union, why keep commenting the same thing? Confused

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SalsaLove · 16/09/2021 20:08

No one understands why you wouldn’t join a union that will protect your rights.

334bu · 16/09/2021 20:09

Because the protection it can give you is really invaluable.

Heyha · 16/09/2021 20:09

Because it's absolutely ridiculous to not be in one when you're working in education. It's that simple.

GiantCheeseMonster · 16/09/2021 20:09

Not being in a union as a teacher is v v foolish. If someone ever makes an allegation against you you will need them.

In the meantime you need to go to the Head. There will be a formal process and you will need to go on the record and give specifics.

DismantledKing · 16/09/2021 20:09

@BleshRed

Thanks everyone but I’ve been really clear that I don’t want to join a union, why keep commenting the same thing? Confused
Because if you can’t sort this out through the goodwill of the staff involved, without a union you’re fucked basically.
BleshRed · 16/09/2021 20:16

@DismantledKing I’m not really “fucked” Confused but yes, it’s pretty horrible working with a nutty line manager so I do need some support in school. I think I’ll move school ultimately when something comes up.

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canigooutyet · 16/09/2021 20:26

I used to be the same about not wanting to join a union. After years about hearing horror stories I finally joined. Thankfully I did as I could not foresee me getting bullied which contributed to having a breakdown.

The Union were tremendous in not only getting the school to back off, but supporting me going through the grievance process. They also spoke to others who had witnessed personally what I went through who wouldn't have spoken out in fear of getting the same treatment as the rep was able to keep their names out of it.

Diverseopinions · 16/09/2021 20:28

I think going to the head and asking for a new line manager is a good idea. Say more than one person has told you that she openly slates you. You are not prepared to say who has told you. But the fact that it is their interpretation not yours means that you are not being over-sensitive.

Then just steel yourself for an awkward time, but you know you are in the right. Something has been said by her. She won't deny saying anything, she will simply minimize the negatives features of what she has said. You, with the head or other senior there, will ask why there is a reason to discuss other members of the team to a particular teacher.

She has ruined this job experience for you and you don't want the same thing to happen to anyone else.