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Have you ever had to get a restraining order against someone not an ex-partner?

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bunglebee · 13/09/2021 22:45

Would really appreciate advice, experiences and insights on the process, if so. Don't want to go into detail too much here for obvious reasons, but this person is a stranger (from my perspective) but who appears alarmingly fixated on me.

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CornishTiger · 13/09/2021 22:49

You can get a restraining order based on a conviction. Or take civil action yourself. Look at rights of women website. It’s different process for someone who has never been a intimate partner.

When you say fixated what is happening. Police could issue a warning.

bunglebee · 13/09/2021 22:54

Long story short, there have been multiple clearly bonkers complaints made to police, and this person is also now contacting schools and workplaces with allegations. Police have dismissed all the complaints made against us, and are supportive of pursuing one in the opposite direction, or so they say.

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InnPain · 13/09/2021 23:23

Is this like a hate campaign? Sounds awful OP, hope you’re okay

CornishTiger · 13/09/2021 23:39

Then the police pursue a section 2 harassment.

www.cps.gov.uk/legal-guidance/stalking-and-harassment

bunglebee · 14/09/2021 06:17

@InnPain

Is this like a hate campaign? Sounds awful OP, hope you’re okay
The perpetrator appears to be very unwell, not that that means I have to put up with it. But I'm also slightly concerned whether pushing back might feed into the delusion.
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bunglebee · 14/09/2021 11:43

Hopeful bump.

Current problem is that the perpetrator is abroad, from where he can contact a whole range of people to make allegations about me but the police can do nothing to arrange a mental health assessment or make harassment charges...

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SpacePotato · 14/09/2021 11:46

If this person is a stranger, how have they got so much information about you?

leakymcleakleak · 14/09/2021 11:50

If they're overseas, how do you imagine getting any order enforced? I think in that circumstance you would need to go to local law enforcement. If he's, say, in Spain, and you get an order enforceable in a UK court, and he continues to say phone social services in your local council in breach of the order, you wouldn't really be able to do anything about it even if you have one.

Are you assuming that he/she will return to the UK soon and you want to have an order in place? Or do you want some proof to show these agencies that they're malicious allegations?

leakymcleakleak · 14/09/2021 11:55

@SpacePotato

If this person is a stranger, how have they got so much information about you?
I think people massively underestimate the amount of info that is out there if someone wants to look for it. I did research a number of years ago into an 'estranged' / 'secret' family member - the standard 'secret child nobody knew anything about' and all I had was a name, rough month of birth and a vague sense of their married surname. I was able to access their birth and marriage certs through online genealogy sites (think I used a free trial) then a bit of trial and error and google and I found their linkedin page, so I knew where they went to school, their public work profile. They had a restricted facebook page but I could see enough to guess who their children were and by googling I could find their public twitter pages, and indeed go back to the 'original' persons own twitter which was under a different name but followed by those two accounts.

Based on photos they posted on twitter, if I'd been really committed I probably could have got close enough to an area they lived in. People put a terrifying amount of info online. I really didn't have any nefarious purposes, and in the end they had actually been trying to track me down too, but if I was trying to stalk someone it would't be as hard as people think.

bunglebee · 14/09/2021 12:04

@SpacePotato

If this person is a stranger, how have they got so much information about you?
Unbeknownst to us, he was staying next door, but thanks for the helpful question. He has evidently been both watching me and online stalking me. I OTOH have never seen this person and had no idea they existed.

I have no idea whether he is out of the country for a week or permanently and the police are tight-lipped. I know he's physically been back to the area previously even though the police told me he had left.

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OverByYer · 14/09/2021 12:13

How scary for you OP.
If he has committed offences of stalking and harassment whilst here in the UK then the police here can investigate and if charged and convicted the judge / magistrate can isssue a restraining order on conviction.
Otherwise I’d seek advice from a solicited a civil order - this could prove quicker as the burden of proof is less but will cost you

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