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WWYD - long lost families

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Nc123 · 09/09/2021 22:31

I’m in a weird situation.

I had a stepdad for about twenty years, from childhood. He was a very emotionally damaged man who had an alcohol dependency. He and my mum are no longer together but he was a very important person for me growing up.

The source of his issues were that he was adopted by an emotionally cold couple, the father being physically abusive as well. He was very open about his desire to know more about his biological parents and perhaps to forge a relationship- this was a huge deal for him and he put off doing it for some years because he was so nervous about it.

Eventually he did go back to where he was born and traced his mother, who had died. He was very upset to find that she had had other children both before and after him, none of whom had been given up for adoption, and this triggered a breakdown in him which led to very severe alcohol abuse and his split from my mum. He was never able to trace his father as his birth mother had refused to name the man or to say anything about him, and this was another factor in his distress as he felt that he would never be able to find out who his biological father was.

Completely accidentally, and some years later, I now have a very good idea of who his father was. Theres such a strong physical resemblance that when I first saw a picture of this man, I thought it was my stepdad. The dates fit and he was in the right place at the right time. Unfortunately, the man was a fairly high profile criminal in the local area, a loan shark, involved with drugs, and very violent. (Which may well be why the birth mother did not want to name him.)

I’m now torn. I know that my stepdad, more than anything else, deeply wanted to know who his biological father was, he always felt that there was a piece missing by not knowing, and he is extremely unlikely to find out how I did (it was a bit of a crazy coincidence). Obviously I can’t say with certainty that this man was his father, but there’s enough evidence there for him to find out for sure if he wanted to. As a general rule I would tell someone the truth and let them deal with it as they need to.

However, the fact that the potential father was such an awful person makes me think that I shouldn’t try to tell my stepdad what I’ve found. I’m worried that it might impact his mental health severely if he finds out that his father was a loan shark, involved with drugs and famously violent.

Also, I’m not in touch with my stepdad as he left my mum under difficult circumstances. I would have to find him to tell him, and while I would do that if I felt it was right, I couldn’t stick around to support him through assimilating that knowledge - and, unless things have changed out of all recognition, he will not have the support of anyone else to help him.

What would you do? Sorry about the essay.

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Nc123 · 09/09/2021 22:40

Bump. I’m really struggling with this one!

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TheSpottedZebra · 09/09/2021 22:43

It's tough, but on balance I think I'd leave it. You could be opening up so many more avenues of pain for him.

Despite the difficult circumstances you mention with the relationship ending, you do do seem so kind to him, which is lovely.

Magicstars · 09/09/2021 22:57

Hmmmm tricky.

Can you ask your mum what she thinks? She must know him well. Or someone else you trust who also knows him well?

I think if I was him, I’d probably like to have a chance to find out if the person was my bio father. Clearly though I haven’t lived his experiences & so can’t say what the impact might be.

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Mariell · 09/09/2021 23:03

I think o would say more or less what you have said to us here that you have a lead if he wants to follow it up but that is the extent of your involvement.

SleepingStandingUp · 09/09/2021 23:06

Leave it.

There's a chance Mom had an affair with the local loan shark, but equally that she "repaid" a debt or was even raped by him, given what you've said. Don't throw that grenade into someone's life and walk away

Nc123 · 09/09/2021 23:23

@SleepingStandingUp

Leave it.

There's a chance Mom had an affair with the local loan shark, but equally that she "repaid" a debt or was even raped by him, given what you've said. Don't throw that grenade into someone's life and walk away

That did cross my mind - this man was known to take payment in kind from women debtors (and even that wasn’t as bad as what he was reputed to do to the men).
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Nc123 · 09/09/2021 23:26

@Magicstars

Hmmmm tricky.

Can you ask your mum what she thinks? She must know him well. Or someone else you trust who also knows him well?

I think if I was him, I’d probably like to have a chance to find out if the person was my bio father. Clearly though I haven’t lived his experiences & so can’t say what the impact might be.

My mum is still very angry about the way the relationship ended (with justification) and can’t discuss him calmly.

Sadly he was a very isolated man and struggled to maintain relationships so there’s only really me and my mum who knew him at all well.

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Nc123 · 09/09/2021 23:27

@TheSpottedZebra

It's tough, but on balance I think I'd leave it. You could be opening up so many more avenues of pain for him.

Despite the difficult circumstances you mention with the relationship ending, you do do seem so kind to him, which is lovely.

He had a tough time and was very damaged. It’s hard to be angry with someone who was so sad and so troubled.
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ToffeeNotCoffee · 10/09/2021 00:05

DNA ?

SleepingStandingUp · 10/09/2021 12:20

Honestly OP he was known to take sex one way or another and presumably violent towards the men. Do you think it will being your SD any kind of peace or reconciliation to know? OK it explains why he was adopted out but honestly, if he had access to lots of support and was generally stable, I think it would be hard. For your SD, I worry it would be the straw that broke the camels back

CormoranStrike · 10/09/2021 12:49

Leave well alone - you don’t know this man is his biological father, but I cannot imagine it would bring any kind of peace to know he was and the possible circumstances of his conception.

leavingtime · 10/09/2021 13:52

I had to search for my father despite me knowing my mother hated him and would not talk about him. As a result I idealised him, thought he couldn't be that bad. [He could].

I found out that he had hanged himself. I found out from a half brother what he was like, what he did, how he hurt and damaged people. As a result my mother told me more and her sister also told me more. It was shocking.

It was an awful story ok. Believe me. So much so I cannot tell it on here...the criminal element of the situation was the best part!. And it has deeply affected me. I wish I hadn't known quite honestly. Even the half brother rejected me. So I would advise to leave well alone. You don't know what you're setting in motion. Bad news is worse than no news. I know that. It may affect the adopted persons mental health/make it far worse.

leavingtime · 10/09/2021 14:02

Actually the programme 'Long Lost Family' bugs me a lot. Not all stories have happy endings by any means. Far from it.

It's sanitised for TV, the bad outcomes won't be shown. Simmering resentments, nasty truths, lies, awful behaviours, rejection, jealousies, unkindnesses won't be shown and may not develop at first meeting.

A disrupted family cannot be put together that easily there are far too many variables and personalities involved. Watch the programme and read between the lines, take what is said with a pinch of salt. People aren't going to come out with how they really feel on camera with the nation watching. Curiousity wins out initially, keeping it going after that is the hard part.

I know some work and are happy outcomes and genuine. And I'm pleased for them. It's a hell of a thing not knowing your parent/s of origin.....but it certainy doesn't work out for all. That's unrealistic.

Nc123 · 10/09/2021 14:36

Thank you everyone for taking the time to comment.

I was really struggling with this as I knew he wanted closure so much, or I wouldn’t even have considered telling him.

But having reflected on it more and read all your comments, I’m going to leave it. I just can’t see what benefit he would get from the information. To pursue it he would have to approach this man’s living relatives to seek DNA and honestly the whole family were involved with drugs, guns, turf wars, violence…it would be like poking a hornets nest. And that’s before you even start thinking of the ramifications of being related to someone who was reputed to nail defaulting debtors to the floor.

I will leave it, and thank you so much for helping me work it through.

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fingerbuffet · 10/09/2021 14:41

OP..I think leaving it is the right decision.

ToffeeNotCoffee · 10/09/2021 19:10

It's sanitised for TV, the bad outcomes won't be shown. Simmering resentments, nasty truths, lies, awful behaviours, rejection, jealousies, unkindnesses won't be shown and may not develop at first meeting.

This^

A disrupted family cannot be put together that easily there are far too many variables and personalities involved. Watch the programme and read between the lines, take what is said with a pinch of salt. People aren't going to come out with how they really feel on camera with the nation watching. Curiousity wins out initially, keeping it going after that is the hard part.

And this ^

Your second paragraph is very intelligent.

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