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Was it really that bad? I can't tell

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GuerillaFood · 08/09/2021 23:54

Hi, I've name changed for this as I think it's probably quite outing if my mother happens to be on here. I'm in need of some outside perspective. I think I might have been emotionally abused as a child but I'm not sure.

One of my earliest memories is me telling my mother that I didn't want to finish my tea because I didn't like it. She told me I had to finish, and I started to cry. Then she grabbed me by the hair and rubbed my face into the food. Then she laughed a lot.

When I was about 11 I walked into the kitchen to ask her something, and she was sitting in there drinking (she drank a lot). My brother and sister were also in there. As I started to speak she burst out laughing and said "God, your belly is massive". Then she pulled my top up so everyone could see my belly, and grabbed hold of it to shake it and make it wobble. She said "haha, fatty!" And kept laughing. I ran away and cried in my room. Later on she followed me ok there to shout at me more. Looking back at old pictures, I would say my weight was quite normal. I always kept track of my weight because she mentioned it so much, and I was never in the unhealthy weight range for my height.

I used to hide from her a lot when I was at home. I wasn't allowed to go out much and didn't have very many friends. Nobody wanted to come to my house. She would have a few drinks and then come and find me and start shouting at me for things that I had done to her years earlier. Sometimes she would throw things. Once she grabbed a pile of CDs and kept launching them at my head. I managed to duck and miss most of them, which meant they hit the wall behind me and left marks. She told me off for marking the wall.

Most of the time she was angry.

My siblings and I used to take it in turns to cook. I was always so nervous when it was my turn because I was desperate to keep her calm. Whatever I made she would say I'd done it wrong and start shouting. I don't remember the food in much detail, but I think it was fairly normal stuff like pasta and sauce, or sausage mash. I probably didn't make it perfectly but it was usually edible. The meal would often end in her screaming at me and storming out, and me crying.

A few times when I was a teenager she called me a slut. It was never in the context of me hanging around with boys, it would just be said out of the blue.

When I went off to uni she would sometimes call or text me when drunk and say nasty things to me. She didn't turn up to my graduation because she was hungover. She left me waiting outside. Called me at the last minute with a crappy excuse, and I found out later through my sister that it was a lie because she was really hungover.

A lot of my childhood memories are of her saying nasty things that made me cry, and then her pointing and laughing. She often called me fat. I felt afraid of her. She once leaned over the table and grabbed me by the neck because I had "given her cheek". She was holding up a bread knife. I said nothing in response. She let go after a few seconds and sat down. We finished our meal in silence and then she told me to get out of her sight.

I don't know if it was abuse? She always tells me I'm oversensitive. She often tells me she loves me and I think she means it. Can it have been abuse if she really loved me?

There are lots more things but I don't want my post to be too long. If you made it this far, thank you for reading.

I'm so confused. Any insight would be much appreciated.

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DramaAlpaca · 08/09/2021 23:56

Yes. Without a doubt your mother was abusive.

I'm so sorry you experienced that Flowers

trunumber · 09/09/2021 00:00

Yes it was abuse. You were a child, you should never have been made to feel "desperate to keep her calm"

Would you treat a child the way she treated you and think it's ok I'll bet not.

She may well have loved you, but she still chose to hurt you. That's not ok.

RelentlessForwardProgress · 09/09/2021 00:06

"I don't know if it was abuse? She always tells me I'm oversensitive. She often tells me she loves me and I think she means it. Can it have been abuse if she really loved me?"

It must be hard to see it as abusive if you have been conditioned to believe you were being oversensitive.

Anyone would be upset by a parent pointing a finger and laughing at them, grabbing them by the neck, shouting at them or throwing things at them.

I'm so sorry you experienced these things.

GuerillaFood · 09/09/2021 01:42

Thank you so much for reading and responding.

Reading your replies has made me cry. I think I feel relieved?

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Penguin24 · 09/09/2021 01:47

So sorry you went through that @GuerillaFood. That’s emotional abuse (and some physical).

Mynamegone · 09/09/2021 01:53

This really isn’t ok what she’s put you through. Anyone would be scarred by this, it sounds awful and frightening.
Are you close to any siblings and can you talk about it? did she target you more than them?
I have no experience but would worry about the impact she’s had on you and think you deserve some professional support to process it and put it behind you . I hope it doesn’t affect your self esteem now as your post just made me want to protect the child you were; so sad.

Tellmeagain · 09/09/2021 01:59

That sounds absolutely awful. I really feel for you having to grow up in that environment and having to question whether your reaction was appropriate to what your mother was doing and saying to you.

Sending you a big hug.

Lovealovestory · 09/09/2021 02:04

I'm so sorry you had to go through that. I hope you are free of her now

GuerillaFood · 09/09/2021 02:12

I have my own children now. A girl and boy. They are absolutely wonderful. I am so lucky. I also have a lovely DH. I don't often talk to him about this kind of stuff, although I have mentioned it in the past and he's always been supportive. He's a cheerful and gentle person. My home is generally a very happy one. It's nothing like my childhood home. So I think, overall, things are ok. I really don't ever want to make my children feel the way that I did.

The strange thing is, I still talk to my mother a lot. We rarely see her in person, which she complains about a lot, but she phones quite often and I will email her lots of pictures of the kids, which she responds positively to. She gushes a lot about being a grandma and how much she loves her little darlings. It's all a bit weird.

I feel a bit ashamed of myself for not cutting her off. But then I think... What if she dies and then I regret it? And am I just being overdramatic? She's basically fine now. She stopped drinking. She is still a bit unpleasant and I have to put in a lot of work to keep relations cordial, but she's basically fine. There's no screaming and name calling. So part of me thinks I should just leave it.

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GuerillaFood · 09/09/2021 02:17

@Mynamegone

I have a brother and sister but we barely speak. I don't even have either of their phone numbers. We weren't encouraged to be very kind to each other as children and I think that set the tone. I'm not sure there would be any way to recover those relationships after all these years.

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Quirrelsotherface · 09/09/2021 04:22

Yes, entirely abusive. What a horrible woman. How is your relationship now? I would be looking at some kind of therapy for yourself if you feel her behaviour has impacted negatively on your life.

Quirrelsotherface · 09/09/2021 04:25

Sorry, see you've answered above. I would consider therapy to pick things through.

bembridge11 · 09/09/2021 04:34

I am so very sorry you experienced all of this. Yes it is most definitely abuse. Emotional and physical. Sadly for your mother the alcohol was always the priority and so she was incapable of parenting effectively: yes I agree - underneath her addiction she does love you. But her addiction has driven her to do these awful things to you as a child. Imagine behaving like this with a child, your child or another, or a friend or a work colleague. Ww just wouldnt. And it is all wrong. And when the abuser accuses you of being sensitive- it is to deflect from their actions thats all. Of course you arent being too sensitive.
It would help you to have some talking therapies to work through what has happened.

HyacynthBucket · 09/09/2021 05:21

OP What you experienced is truly awful and no child should have to experience it. I don't agree entirely with bembridge11 that it was your mother's addiction to alcohol that caused this. Your mother made a scapegoat of you - something that only highly dysfunctional families do, probably to do with her being narcissistic or having some other personality disorder, and that may also account for the alcoholism.
One of the terrible effects of scapegoating a child is that the other children try to make sure that they are not picked on too, so align themselves with the bad parent, which typically ends with them having little or nothing to do with their scapegoated sister. It sounds as though this has happened to you. So your mother, on top of all the other abuse she subjected you to, has managed it so that you have no sibling relationships. What happened to you is completely unacceptable. It is a great credit to you that you have survived it and have a happy family of your own. To protect yourself I would keep your mother at arm's length, and if she gives you any further grief of any kind, consider going NC, That would not be about punishing her but about you surviving. That you had to ask if your childhood experiences were abusive suggests that she is still confusing you, and your sense of self-worth may be needing help. There must surely be anger too? Do get a therapist's help if you need it OP. I wish I could give you a big hug. Good luck. Flowers

KittyWindbag · 09/09/2021 05:28

Your mother is an abusive person and a bad mother. I’m so sorry this happened to you. You don’t owe her anything, and she doesn’t deserve your forgiveness or your time so if you think you would benefit emotionally from NC then do it.

trunumber · 09/09/2021 07:46

Please don't be ashamed of yourself for not cutting her out. I know lots of people who don't. You do whatever is right for you.

MintyGreenDream · 09/09/2021 08:25

She was an abusive bitch of a mother and I hope you get the help you need to get over it all

GuerillaFood · 09/09/2021 10:20

Thank you to everyone who has commented. You have all been a huge help.

I think I knew, deep down, but it's much easier to believe that it's not true.

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longwayoff · 09/09/2021 10:23

Your mother is an absolute pig and no child should be subjected to the experiences you have had. Try to find some therapy.

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