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Things where you look back and think "that really was a different world"

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StealthPolarBear · 08/09/2021 22:40

I am only in my early 40s so young and sprightly.
When I was even younger I had a job in a dentists office. Basically sending reminder letters out, printjng the letters, and addressing the envelopes. The dental records didn't have title on them so I asked what I should do. The response was i a woman's husband is also registered at the practice, she's a Mrs.
So I did that. Mrs for those respectable married women, and using my teenage innovation I decided any where I was unsure would be 'Ms'.
I got such a telling off. Apparently people complained as it looked like they were divorced.
There are times when the 90s seem only yesterday, and times like remembering that when they seem to have more in common with the victorian era than the present day!

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LadyofMisrule · 09/09/2021 10:50

@Aroundtheworldin80moves was that in Wiltshire?

Babdoc · 09/09/2021 10:59

KimWexlersPonyTail, I just went to my GP as a teenager for oral contraception, but it wasn’t available on the NHS, (1970’s), so I had to pay for a private prescription!
If I remember correctly, it was the princely sum of 50p.
When the NHS finally provided them, the pharmacist handed over my packet and announced loudly to the whole shop “You don’t have to pay for these now, contraception is free!”

FinallyHere · 09/09/2021 10:59

My dear friend, who is only a few years older than I am, had to have her brother sign her first mortgage agreement in the 1970's.

It was her brother or her father who could sign.

Neither had sufficient income to qualify for the mortgage but were deemed ok to sign when she was not.

Thais were the days when a married woman's tax return was automatically sent to her husband.

FinallyHere · 09/09/2021 11:01

people used to take pride in their front gardens and general appearance of their house. Now most people just have a concrete car park covered in weeds and litter. Again, people would not have accepted having litter all over their street let alone on their own property.

@Tilltheend99 generalising much?

Our village has organised litter picking patrol Sedo along the main traffic routes through the village to pick up litter.

Some, maybe not all, people do take pride in their surroundings

Dippydinosaurus · 09/09/2021 11:02

Early noughties getting weekly wages as a cheque every Saturday morning and going to the bank to cash it in and having the cash ready for Saturday night out.
Mid 90s there were 3 computers in the school library with cd roms. They were encyclopedias.
Meeting up with friends, even up to the late 90s, prearranging days and nights out and knowing where everyone would be meeting. I don't remember how we made plans but everyone always turned up and on time.
My dad gave me a BT phonecard to use to call him from a phonebox when I needed picking up.

SufferingSailors · 09/09/2021 11:16

It doesn't seem so long ago Confused but when I first went travelling (age 19) in 1998 to south east Asia, we called our parents from an Internet cafe every week or so. They had no idea where we were between times. No mobiles back then. They had to trust I was alive and well.

Ok so I was an adult and perfectly capable but the thought of my children going off and not knowing where they are fills me with dread! I want them to be independent but really, being able to be in touch constantly is not always a good thing!

Boomkin · 09/09/2021 11:27

I remember at university in 2004 I installed a tv card in my desktop pc, which allowed to you receive a tv signal on your computer and watch the telly on the monitor. The internet had been invented at this point but streaming hadn’t. I also used to illegally download movies to watch, or watch them in parts on YouTube. It’s easy to forget that Netflix has been available for less than a decade!

Postitmug · 09/09/2021 11:31

"And don’t get me onto the word History! I mean, it is literally HIS STORY!!"
@UpHillandDownAle

So many valid things for women to shout about, but this is just silly! Even if you don't known the etymology, how do you account for the extra S? Nobody ever complains that it's "his Tory" Grin

UnaLength · 09/09/2021 11:40

Getting sent home for on very first job as office junior in 1991 for wearing a skirt which was deemed to short. It was about an inch above my knee.

Makes me chuckle now as we have all sorts in our office now, including some ladies who turn up wearing joggers and sliders and another who has tattoos on her neck which certainly would've been an eye raiser at the time I started work - I have nothing against tattoos and have several discreet ones myself before I get jumped on!

UnaLength · 09/09/2021 11:40

*too

TartanJumper · 09/09/2021 11:43

In 1998, I got my first mobile.The text limit was so many characters and if someone rang you mid-text, it cleared. (this was where you had to press the numbers three times to get the letters so it took a long time!). My sister used to call me if she saw me texting to annoy me, and vice versa.

TartanJumper · 09/09/2021 11:47

Also blockbusters- no streaming, you had to walk to the store, pick a movie and watch and return.

SirSamuelVimes · 09/09/2021 11:49

I miss this. It was such an event! Especially if you were with a group of mates and trying to decide if you'd get away with renting a 15 even though you were underage. (Our video rental place was an independent so it's checking on stuff like that was variable, and you could get videos out on your parent's card.)

Newnormal99 · 09/09/2021 11:50

Being allowed to smoke on a school trip at 16 with parental permission. That's was the 80's!

Aliceclara · 09/09/2021 11:52

Taping my favourite songs from the Top 40 - always someone would shout 'tea's ready!' Or knock on my door in the middle of it so it was on the recording. Then I got a DIN plug and could tape directly from the radio to the cassette player. Thought that was really high tech! 😂

SirSamuelVimes · 09/09/2021 11:55

Oh that reminds me - taking sixth formers out drinking on school trips! I went on a trip to Belgium when I was a young teacher and my job in the evening was to accompany the sixth formers round the pubs so they'd be supervised and so (theoretically) not get too pissed. The drinking age in Belgium then was 16 so it was decided we'd not be able to stop them drinking as it was legal but it might be better if they had company!

This would have been 2008 / 9 ish? I'm sure I read something earlier this year about a teacher getting struck off for doing similar!

baggies · 09/09/2021 12:38

Born in the 60's. Going to the doctor and just waiting till you got seen. Home visits from your own dr.
Going to play out in the hols, all day in the woods by our house. No parental input at all. So much freedom.
Worked a bank in the 70's.
No computers. Statements sent out by hand. Cheque books printed on a machine.
All male management. All female secretaries and junior staff. Manually altering currency rates every day. Everything written up in ledgers.
Had my children in late eighties. Free antenatal classes. Clinics every week where me and my friends would meet up and stay there all afternoon. Halcyon days!

HalfShrunkMoreToGo · 09/09/2021 13:01

Has anyone mentioned being able to buy penny sweets from the corner shop? You could go in with 50p and get 10 fizzy cola bottles, 10 sour lemon sweets.......... all counted out from the little plastic tubs.

Or going to my grandma's and she'd take us to the corner shop for a little paper bag of weighed out rainbow Kali (sour dyed flavoured sugar) and we'd eat it with a teaspoon.

IngridTails · 09/09/2021 13:27

My Mum sending me in the corner shop when I was about 7/8 (mid-late 80s) with a handwritten note and a fiver 'Please let Ingrid have 20 Bensons. Thanks, Ingrid's Mum'

When I worked in an office late 90s/early 00s sending documents by special delivery post so the client would get it the next day before 12noon. Apart from fax or courier there wasn't a quicker way.

CreaturefromtheDeep · 09/09/2021 13:42

I started uni in 1996. The prospectus had proudly declared that every single student would be provided with an email address. I didn’t understand the concept at all and thought that this meant we would all be supplied with our own computer – and obviously computers back then were huge so I just couldn’t understand where these thousands of machines would be kept and how I would access it.

During freshers week there were two compulsory classes. The first was how to use email – we were all paired with a stranger on the other side of the computing lab and had to contact them using email. It was an eye-opener and very exciting. The second compulsory class was about the dangers of becoming addicted to email.

Essays were hand-written for the first two years but then the University introduced a policy that essays now had to be emailed as an attachment. There was absolute uproar and we actually staged a protest – holding placards saying that we were there to be tested on our academic ability, not our IT skills.

My first proper job after graduating and travelling was in 2002. The organisation were proudly boasting that they had invested in computers for all office-based staff – no more typewriters and carbon paper. When I was invited to interview they said I would have to take an email competency test. I was really nervous and got one of my geeky friends to teach me everything that could possibly be done on early Outlook (including diaries, when the use the cc and bcc fields etc). When it came to it, I was given a handwritten letter which I was asked to type out and send to someone and then asked if I knew how to forward an email. That was it. My colleagues thought I was a proper techy wiz due to my additional knowledge. I feel quite lucky that I’m of the generation which was young enough to fully embrace technology when it started to take over but also old enough to have had a childhood without it.

On the Ms thing, there was a pizza place local to me when I was young, which had a ham/sausage pizza called the Ms Piggy. I don’t know if it was a genuine misspelling or if they were avoiding copyright but I recall my mum laughing her head off at the idea that they were suggesting Piggy and Kermit had divorced. One day we went there with a classmate from school who dared to look my mum in the eye and questioned why this was funny. She was only 12 years old and I was in awe as she explained that Ms was the correct term for modern women and there was no need for us to have to demonstrate our marital status. From that day onwards, I called myself Ms, much to my mum’s chagrin. She thought people would think I was a lesbian and that no man would ever want me.

Throughout several jobs in different organisations, my title was always used in correspondence, on company literature etc – Ms Creature Deep. It was the same for everyone although obviously there were different titles used – Miss, Mrs, Ms, Mr. Sometime around 2008, the company I worked for (and still do), announced that titles were to be dropped and we would all be known as Firstname Secondname only. It was explained that neither gender nor marital status should be important in the workplace. Some people were really angry – I remember a friend who was about to get married being upset that she would lose out on the time-honoured ritual of changing her details. I was torn – my feminist ideals completely agreed with the argument but by losing my Ms title (which I retained after marriage) I was losing the opportunity to show off that I was a feminist and therefore different to all the Miss and Mrs. It strikes me as strange and interesting that, just over a decade later, we’re now pushing back the other way by detailing our pronouns.

What I find particularly fascinating though is what we managed to do before technology took over. When letters took a day to be dictated, typed, corrected and re-typed, when memos were handwritten and delivered by trolley twice per day, when people were not available and connected 24/7 and did not have all the information in the world in our pockets. At that time, we still managed to put a man on the moon, send rockets into space, explore the globe, run a health service, a food chain etc. We have clearly fixed inefficiencies but we’ve created distractions and problems. I think there are lessons to be learned from both the present and the past as we move into the future.

KitchenDancefloor · 09/09/2021 14:07

@CreaturefromtheDeep

We're of the same generation, x-ennials somewhere between Gen X and millennials with the best of both. You sum it up perfectly:

I feel quite lucky that I’m of the generation which was young enough to fully embrace technology when it started to take over but also old enough to have had a childhood without it.

As well as the changing tech, the culture shifts at work have been huge. There is so much that used to go on in office culture that would get you sacked now. The casual sexism, drinking at lunch, inappropriate 'banter' from senior colleagues that was really bullying.

But it was a much simpler time. I was a few jobs in before anyone mentioned objectives, KPIs or service level agreements. Jobs for life were on the way out but it was much easier to find an office job where you just worked your hours, did your bit and went home. Even junior roles now seem to have much more accountability and pressure. Maybe just my industry though.

LeafOfTruth · 09/09/2021 14:13

I feel quite lucky that I’m of the generation which was young enough to fully embrace technology when it started to take over but also old enough to have had a childhood without it.

Yep, I totally agree with this. I often feel lucky to have been given this balance also.

LeafOfTruth · 09/09/2021 14:16

*The casual sexism, drinking at lunch, inappropriate 'banter' from senior colleagues that was really bullying.

But it was a much simpler time. I was a few jobs in before anyone mentioned objectives, KPIs or service level agreements*

I wonder if we're in similar industries (IT) but I remember my first IT job as being 1st line IT support which was called a call centre back then - before that was used for insurance etc and IT support because Service Desks.

It was a team of women and the salesmen would often bring clients to look around our office. They always introduce us as their "call girls" and everyone would have a good laugh about it!

Taytocrisps · 09/09/2021 14:26

I can relate to so many of the posts on this thread - thank you for the many contributions.

My best friend at school didn't have a home phone so if I wanted to call for her (during the school holidays for example), I couldn't arrange it in advance. I had to walk to her house which was about a 20-25 minute walk and hope she was there. Really annoying if she wasn't home. I couldn't get a lift there from my parents 'cos they didn't drive. Her parents didn't drive either.

Afterschool activities weren't a thing back then. A lot of the boys played soccer or GAA (Gaelic football or hurling). They made their own way to training and a bus might be hired to take them to play their matches. Some girls went to Irish dancing or girl guides and I knew one girl who did piano lessons. But lots of kids didn't do any activities at all. Parents didn't beat themselves up over it like they do nowadays. In fact, they didn't give it much thought at all. Birthdays were celebrated with your immediate family and a birthday cake. Parties were few and far between.

Doing computers at school. We'd spend the entire class writing about 300 lines of code (copying what our teacher wrote on the board). Then we'd type it all into our terminals. At the end of it all, the computer would do something like print the word 'Hello' or something else utterly earth shattering. I was a bit underwhelmed tbh.

I worked in a jewellery shop at one stage and the manager used to send me to the bank to get change. So she'd give me some notes which I would exchange at the bank for bags of coins. Except one time the bank was out of change so I had to wait about 15 minutes for the change to come in. This was obviously pre-mobile phones, so I couldn't ring my manager to explain. The staff were very relieved when I finally got back to the shop. I'm sure they thought I'd made off with the money or else I'd been mugged. There as so many examples like this where a mobile phone would have been useful.

When I started working in an office (late '90s so not a million years ago) if a memo needed to be circulated, it was manually circulated. Basically, a piece of paper was attached to the front of the document with a list of names on it. The list was done up in order of seniority - so, the memo went to the head of the department first and when he'd read it, he wrote his initials beside his name and passed it to his deputy and so on. If anyone was on holidays, the memo sat on their desk until they came back. It probably took weeks for for the memo to make its way around the whole office before it finally reached the most junior staff member Grin. That's if it ever got to them at all.

I can remember e-mail coming in at work and we were all sent on a training course to learn how to use it. The course trainer encouraged us to send e-mails to our colleagues so we could get familiar with using it. When I come back to work after my holidays these days and am faced with 10 million e-mails, I look back ruefully.

Also, a smoking room at work. The smokers always heard the gossip first because they got to mix with people from other offices.

Sometimes I think I should write all this down so my DC and future DGC (if any) can get a glimpse of how we lived. Things have changed so much in my lifetime - I can only wonder what life will be like in 50 years time.

SirSamuelVimes · 09/09/2021 14:27

I miss lunchtime drinking!

My first job was in Lloyds of London. The entire business ran on long lunches, drinks after work, even boozy breakfasts. I had a night out fully funded by a brokerage firm for the sole purpose of junior brokers and junior underwriters getting sloshed together to start building relationships. About five years ago I read that Lloyds had banned drinking during the work day and couldn't believe what I was reading!

During a uni summer job I worked in a call centre and Friday lunches (which were a full hour) were always in a pub, in the beer garden, with a pint. Happy days.

When I started teacher training in 2006 there were still whole departments who would do Friday lunch in the pub. Nowadays you can't leave site at all, let alone go for a drink.

It's seems so wildly unprofessional and terrible to look at it now, but at the same time I think, well, nothing bad ever came of it!

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