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Catholic guilt and being gay

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anon6578 · 05/09/2021 12:30

I can’t get past it . I was brought up Catholic, confirmed at 14. I would argue now that I was not given a choice in making my confirmation; I was told it was what all Catholics must do ...

My mum is less religious - although still believes - but my grandmother is devout - ie raised in a convent by nuns - some of who have since been convicted of abuse, daily rosary, mass, pays money to SPUC, hands out leaflets to others about her beliefs. She is openly homophobic, she says awful things. I’ve never told her I’m gay but I think she suspects, at sixteen she told me if I was one of ‘those women’ I’d never be welcome home again.

We were taught as children that sex, bodies, are disgusting unless within a marriage - that marriage is for men and women only and anything else (including masturbation) is fornication/lust. My grandmother believes in a literal hell, and has told me many many times she believes that’s where I’m going for my ‘sins’ (ie not attending mass regularly).

My gran would argue anyone who is not Catholic will go to hell too, that no one can be truly good if they’re not going to mass.

I realised I was gay at 13, came out at 26 . I haven’t felt able to be true to myself at all, I feel like if I do I’m doing something awful and something to be ashamed of . I’m 30, I’ve never been in a relationship - I’m too scared because at the back of my mind is this idea of hell .

I don’t want to attend church anymore, I haven’t been to mass in years; I believe in God but I don’t believe in one who would actively punish me for something I did not choose . I don’t think I need to stay celibate for the rest of my life (as church would argue that’s the answer to being gay) . I think I should be afforded the same rights and respect as others .

My aunt (other side of family) ministers to a wonderfully inclusive church and celebrates gay marriage, goes to Pride etc. I’ve got gay friends who’ve found their place in other churches too. I’m scared to explore this myself though as have always been told I’ll eventually be punished for it - as much as I don’t think that’s true I can’t get the fear out of my mind.

I’m having therapy at the moment and my therapist has been encouraging me to pull back from family a bit, to contact only on my terms . She said I need to explore my identity a bit, but I genuinely don’t know how to . She wants to talk more about it this week but I’ve been going over and over it in my mind and panicking a bit, I don’t know how to even begin to feel more comfortable with myself .

Just wondering if anyone has been in the same position - trying to walk away from religion? How do you do it?

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youvegottenminuteslynn · 05/09/2021 22:53

I think a Catholic upbringing, especially if it includes a Catholic school, creates a lot of atheists like me. The teachings are homophobic, misogynist and outdated. You've done nothing wrong. At all. Some therapy might help you process that and find peace in your decision, which may then see you distancing yourself from some believers if they genuinely believe it's wrong to be gay.

PearlyRising · 05/09/2021 22:53

@romdowa

I was raised Catholic, went to Catholic schools and thankfully never acquired the "Catholic guilt" . I'm currently pregnant out of wedlock 🤣🤣 time and the church to some degree has moved on. You can have your faith and be gay, thousands and thousands of people are.
I'm not even catholic but I grew up in Ireland. Before I got pregnant I felt modern and independent like all of that judging was in The Past and couldn't touch me, and then the second I got pregnant I felt shame . So weird. I absorbed a lot of cultural guilt without even needing to be catholic.
idontlikealdi · 05/09/2021 23:14

I come from a very RC family, one aunt a nun, the rest of them completely devout. I have two gay cousins. Everyone has been nothing but accepting. I don't go to church, haven't for years but I do think attitudes are finally changing. If the church doesn't change there won't be a church in the future.

I hope you find the acceptance you deserve.

BodgertheJogger · 05/09/2021 23:20

Not hugely helpful, but just want to say that you aren't alone. I was raised in an intensely homophobic household. Mum wasn't particularly religious but it'll be from something from her upbringing or a projection of her insecurities I expect.
I'm not gay but I have questioned my sexuality and I'm not sure what I am.
It's horrible to feel like you can't be 'you'.
Make sure you uphold boundaries and understand that you gran's perception comes from a warped perception and maybe from fear or pain. I go to Buddhist centre to understand why people are cruel. You can do that without advocating someone's actions.
It helps ot feel less personal.

Deletesystem33 · 06/09/2021 18:13

The problem is with them, not you.

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