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Has she been lying to me the whole time??

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GingernutConspiracy · 01/09/2021 17:09

Hi All!
I'm a single working parent of a now 11 year old who has just started secondary school. My ex husband and his family live abroad and isn't very involved (his choice since the divorce 7 years ago). My own family are a 5 hour drive away.
About a year ago, I went back to full-time work and was looking for a childminder to do the school runs (to and from) as well as some wrap around care for my then 10 year old child. A fellow Mum friend of mine recommended her (good) friend - a qualified childminder looking for work - who also happened to live across from me having recently moved from Greece along with her husband and son - the convenience!
I contacted the childminder and after meeting, getting on well, introducing my daughter, we did a practice run of the route and school pick up, introduction to the teacher etc. Also discussed payment (she wanted it all in cash in advance each week). I have kept a thorough record with her signing off on all payments also. She showed me her childcare qualifications and work references (including a day nursery nearby). When I asked if she was a registered childminder here, she told me she was, having worked in a renowned day nursery also here, but that there was a delay in getting her number due to backlog caused by Covid-19 - she assured me she would keep contacting/chasing it up and let me know asap after I stressed that I would be entitled to part of my childcare costs with a registered minder. Months passed and yet every time I followed top on the number, she would always have some excuse for the ongoing delay. Meanwhile, we would exchange birthday and Christmas presents for the children and I have sent her various gifts as thank you, wine, flowers, that sort of thing.
Eventually, I went to try to claim back the expenses for that school year, submitting a letter containing the full information, dates, payment and so on, which was signed by the childminder - letter was rejected - they only wanted the registration number. A month or so before starting secondary school, I contacted the same childminder about only doing the morning drop offs and she told me she couldn't manage it due to her new childminding job start time (didn't say what time it started at, but I know she leaves the house around 8.30am in her car to drop off her son at his school, which coincidentally is on the way to my daughters new one) I was flexible with her drop off time - there's an earlier breakfast club in place, yet she still insisted she couldn't manage it. It left me in a tricky position, but I've managed to do it all and back before 9am - so far! The idea is she can start walking herself there and back with a group of friends nearby and I'm helping to build them up to it with some other parents. I messaged her again a few days ago offering to help chase it all up and she just replied, Sorry but we had a private arrangement from the start, blatantly implying that I was fine with never needing to know the number! Definitely in contrast what was really communicated and everything since!
Now, she's completely ignoring me. A friend dropped me off yesterday in her car and we were sitting just opposite the childminder's house - she came out and actually kept her head down avoiding all contact while getting into her car parked directly next to where we were. My friend noticed and thought it was bizarre. I searched online for the list of registered childminders in our area and she wasn't on it. I also contacted Ofsted and they couldn't confirm either - they keep asking me to give them her address so they can 'investigate' - but I am reluctant...what if it all becomes more trouble than it's worth? So the question is - what is going on and what should I do? It's a lot of money for me to just lose! I'm quite shocked at this sudden personality change also. Any advice on what to do?
Is she Registered or Unregistered?

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CornishTiger · 01/09/2021 17:13

Childminders are registered for a reason. Health and Safety. Safeguarding. She needs reporting.

CornishTiger · 01/09/2021 17:13

And yes you’ve lost your chance of claiming support. Although you probably were out of time anyway.

riverpebbles · 01/09/2021 17:15

She's unregistered. It costs money to be registered and (rightly) involves meeting certain guidelines and being inspected and so on which she clearly doesn't want. I would report her as it sounds like you were clear that you wanted a registered childminder.

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lulujuju · 01/09/2021 17:19

If she was registered she'd have no problem giving you her reference number or proof of the delay.
I'm sorry but I don't think you'll be able to claim any funding now. Report her.

Steph901 · 01/09/2021 17:28

I would be careful especially with her living opposite you. There could be a hate campaign out for you when she finds out you reported her. If you don’t know her too well she could intimate or makes false allegations against you. Wouldn’t be worth all the trouble especially if you can’t claim the money back anyway. Hard lesson to learn just move on…

HollowTalk · 01/09/2021 17:33

I would definitely report - I wouldn't care if she did live in the same road. She's the one who's lied and potentially put children at risk by not being registered. She's lost you money, now. Don't be afraid of her, OP!

bamboocat · 01/09/2021 17:36

She has obtained money by deception - ie fraud.

Definitely report her to the authorities.

2Hot2Handle · 01/09/2021 17:36

Have you got evidence that she was providing a childminding service to you? You mentioned you paid in cash, but do you have emails, texts etc discussing pickups, drop offs, the fact that she’s registered?
If so, ask her one more time for the reference number, saying that if she can’t provide that, you’ll see if you can get the money back by providing all the info and that someone will be contacting her about it. I know you’ve tried without the number, but she might get scared and confess/offer
money back, or cough up the number if she is legit. If no response, report her. If she’s doing child minding in another job, that needs to happen.

Polkadots2021 · 01/09/2021 18:03

Maybe she's qualified in Greece but the qualification doesn't transfer because of Brexit?

CarolinaWeeper · 01/09/2021 18:35

@2Hot2Handle

Have you got evidence that she was providing a childminding service to you? You mentioned you paid in cash, but do you have emails, texts etc discussing pickups, drop offs, the fact that she’s registered? If so, ask her one more time for the reference number, saying that if she can’t provide that, you’ll see if you can get the money back by providing all the info and that someone will be contacting her about it. I know you’ve tried without the number, but she might get scared and confess/offer money back, or cough up the number if she is legit. If no response, report her. If she’s doing child minding in another job, that needs to happen.
This is what I would do. She's clearly not a registered childminder so I would give her warning....please could you have her registration number so you can claim the government help towards childcare costs, if she can't provide it you'll be sending in all the info about the arrangement to Ofsted so they can contact her about it. It depends if you have evidence that this wasn't a private arrangement as she's claiming though.
AliceAyres · 01/09/2021 19:48

I'm going through a very similar situation at the moment and it's honestly draining to deal with.

GingernutConspiracy · 02/09/2021 17:48

Thanks all for the advice :-)
I decided to report the woman in question...really hope it doesn't backfire on me. If I can prevent it from happening to someone else or worse then I'd be happier. I think I won't ever see any money back :/

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Mariell · 02/09/2021 17:53

I think you have done the right thing.

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