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9 years for this..?

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QueenAdreena · 06/08/2021 14:42

Apologies for the DM link, but how does an act this cruel and wicked only get someone 9 years? Has the world gone mad?

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9868811/Teen-mother-19-breaks-tears-jailed-nine-years.html

RIP little Asiah Kudi Flowers her suffering must have been unbearable.

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Galassia · 06/08/2021 16:00

@juicey09

The news stories in this past week relating to the death of several children has been heartbreaking. I don't understand how she only got 9 years. I don't want to imagine the suffering she experienced. I read she was home for 2 hours before she called 999 and was seen putting rubbish in the bins outside in that time. She told the paramedics her daughter had been ill all day and she'd given her calpol. I can't imagine what Asiah went through alone
Apparently she also has the time to make a post advertising concert tickets for sale.

Unbelievable coldness and a calculated mind to only do things that benefited herself.

MarianneUnfaithful · 06/08/2021 16:05

@TonkinLenkicks

Does their have to be a reason why she left her? Does she have to have learning difficulties, her own issues, mental heath, care leaver etc. Can she not just be fucking evil?
She could be, but if you actually read what happened to the mother, gave birth at 16 having been abused since being a young teen, plonked in a ‘supported’ hostel type place with no one on the staffed reception noticing that she was disappearing without her baby for days at a time…
DifficultPifcultLemonDifficult · 06/08/2021 16:13

Its a sad situation all round.

The Motheer was let down by everyone when she was a child, the result of which was her, and the other authorities involved letting her daughter down too.

OlivesTree · 06/08/2021 16:14

Earlier this week I dreamed that I had left my children (7 & 9) and gone on what seemed a short drive with my husband. All of a sudden, as happens in dreams, I realised we were quite far away. TheSad feeling of desperation trying to get back to them was, quite literally, a nightmare. I woke up and couldn’t go back to sleep and when I think of it, the feeling still haunts me.
How anybody could leave a baby for 6 days is absolutely beyond me. I feel so sad for that poor, poor baby. Sad

ToomuchHeat · 06/08/2021 16:20

Can I ask re child sex exploitation - does this mean she was herself exploited as a child sexually?

Antiqueanniesmagiclanternshow · 06/08/2021 16:20

@TonkinLenkicks

Does their have to be a reason why she left her? Does she have to have learning difficulties, her own issues, mental heath, care leaver etc. Can she not just be fucking evil?
Evil isn't an independent state occurring from nothing. It is created. It is created through abuse and neglect and trauma. It is easier to think it just happens for no reason because then we we don't have to think about what has led to this moment.
jesusmaryjosephandtheweedonkey · 06/08/2021 16:22

It's just horrendous what has happened to that poor child.
Social services need to explain why they allowed this to happen.
No social workers assigned to a child of a vulnerable adult in sheltered housing. Wrong on every level.
Even though the mother is ultimately to blame , the authorities enabled this to happen.

3teens2cats · 06/08/2021 16:24

It's easier to believe she is evil rather than accept that society and circumstances created a young woman who was able to do this. For whatever reason, or combination of reasons, she did not have the capacity to be a parent and social services failed to protect the child. Yes, she should have known that abandoning her baby would lead to harm but that is not the same as intending to kill. Awful and tragic situation.

HerRoyalRisesAgain · 06/08/2021 16:26

Why did no friends or BF ask about the baby? from what I read she told friends the baby was being looked after by her mum.

KittenKong · 06/08/2021 16:38

So she knew it wasn’t ok to leave the child alone. She just chose to do it and lie.

HerRoyalRisesAgain · 06/08/2021 16:38

KittenKong from what I can gather, yes. She knew exactly what she was doing.

Lockdownbear · 06/08/2021 17:00

@ToomuchHeat

Can I ask re child sex exploitation - does this mean she was herself exploited as a child sexually?
That's what I'd take it to mean. She has been sexually abused.

She's hardly had a loving stable background herself. I think both she and her LO were very badly let down.

lavenderandwisteria · 06/08/2021 17:02

@jesusmaryjosephandtheweedonkey

It's just horrendous what has happened to that poor child. Social services need to explain why they allowed this to happen. No social workers assigned to a child of a vulnerable adult in sheltered housing. Wrong on every level. Even though the mother is ultimately to blame , the authorities enabled this to happen.
unpopular point here but almost everything above applies to the mother as well as the child.
Orf1abc · 06/08/2021 17:14

Both the daughter and the mother are victims that have been gravely failed by the system.

I can't explain how someone could do this to a child, but I am aware of the harm that long term abuse can do to a young person. When we hear about grooming gangs, we often find that the victims then groom others themselves, because their abusers tell them to, but also because they become conditioned to have no idea of what is normal or acceptable anymore.

I doubt this girl was "fucking evil". More likely she had completely dissociated from reality, and any sense of what is rational and responsible was long gone.

physicskate · 06/08/2021 21:33

In which case, why the fuck was this monster allowed to keep her child???! If she is that 'dissociated' from reality, surely she is not capable of caring for a child, also proven by her previous abandonment and neglect of the child.

This story really really got to me. I mean, we've all had the odd day where we thought 'I really need to just leave the room for a minute.' Or 'a trip to the shops by myself would be nice,' but this???

physicskate · 06/08/2021 21:36

Oh and by the way I find it an absolute mission to fill the car with petrol. I have a toddler and a baby. No way do I feel comfortable leaving them in the car to go pay, so have to be super strategic in order to fill up the car (the one 'pay at the pump' place 10 miles away or after they've gone to bed and dh is on duty).

What this teenager did is insanity. Why was she allowed to 'parent'??!

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