NHS secondment advice please?

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I'm currently working in a band 2 role, we're badly understaffed everyone is unhappy the job is boring and repetitive. We hold a lot of responsibility if anything was to every to badly wrong.

My manager is horrendous and I want out, I have an interview working on the front desk in phlebotomy. 4 hours a day instead of 8 and I can work at the trust closer to my home (5 mins away)

My manager is going to hit the roof when she find out and if I get it. Do I have to speak to her first? And is she allowed to stop me from working on a secondment?

I've got so much anxiety built up about her finding out because she will treat me like crap.

i believe the needs of the service may need to be taken into consideration for secondment, but i know no more than that

Who would be funding the secondment? Your current employer, or the trust you will be interviewing with? If its the former, then she might be able to dispute it and try to prevent it.
If the latter, then it's none of her business and its the same process as if you're leaving for another job.

Some trusts and departments don't support secondments because it creates knock on staffing gaps. However usually the job advert will tell you what to do if applying on secondment. Good luck you might as well go for it, they can't treat you much worse and might treat you better if at risk of losing you.

Yep she can say no, I've had it happen to me before (ex nhs).

If you are badly short staffed it is unlikely that a secondment to a separate trust (not the even same trust but different hospital) would be supported. Can you show how the secondment will benefit you when you return to your permanent job. Why not just apply for the role as a new job rather than secondment?

She absolutely is allowed to stop you going on secondment, you should have discussed it with her before applying.
A secondment is an agreement between your old dept, your new dept and you. It is absolutely pointless applying without agreement from your line manager.

It's the same trust, I'm happy to leave without coming back to my position can I also go about it that way?

She needs to agree to it unfortunately as it will have staffing implications for her as your job will remain open for you to return to at the end of the secondment so it is harder for her to fill on a fixed term basis. You need to think how to sell it to her. What skills will you come back from the secondment with, that you don’t currently have, and how will that benefit your current department?

Yes you can leave altogether but then you risk not having a job at the end of it. Depends how much you don’t want to go back.

It depends if it is just on a secondment basis or it is a fixed term post. If it is fixed term, yes you can resign if not allowed a secondment. I would guess you could pick up a Band 2 job elsewhere in the trust. If this is an option it sounds a good one. No point remaining in a role you’re not happy in.

Whenever I’ve seen secondments advertised it’s always said you need your line manager’s permission. As previously said, they could say no but equally you could resign. Your choice really.

Was it advertised as a secondment only? Wasn't that discussed in the interview?