Just a little confusion here...

[Peppapigforlife]

Why is it that ninety thousand people can attend a football match, but I still can't take my daughter to a free local children's centre toddler group or rhyme time session at the library in my area, despite restrictions being lifted?

All opinions welcome.

Do you mean they're closed? Or you just can't get a space for her?

I would imagine it's because these decisions are for the toddler group/library to make themselves and not decided at a national level.

You would need to ask your council as to why they have not restarted them.

Are they term time only normally- could it be that they will restart in September as there was no point as schools have broken up/breaking up soon?

Children’s centres/toddler groups etc are allowed to reopen, so if they haven’t then that’s their choice. You’ll have to speak to them about why they have chosen not to restart.

Certain events are designated as pilot events to test transmission e.g. the British Grand Prix this weekend. Other restrictions still exist - I'm in Wales and I think we might just be allowed 6 to meet indoors but I've lost track to be honest.

Lots will just reopen in September because they don't run through the school holidays anyway.

Why can 60.000 people pile into Wembley but only 1 person can visit in hospital and u have to make an appointment. Who makes this crazy rules

'Why can 60.000 people pile into Wembley but only 1 person can visit in hospital and u have to make an appointment'

That's ones easy.

Because hospitals and football stadiums are very different. If you think back, the rules re. football stadiums and hospital visiting have always been very different, even before Covid.

It's similar to: why is it ok to wear a swimming costume and verucca sock at the swimming pool, but not ok at Morrisons?

Who says I can't wear my swimming socks and costume at Morrisons?

I called them and they said because social distancing is still happening in their buildings they can't run toddler groups. They've been allowed to since April though...

It’s awful and I really do feel babies and toddlers needs have been impatiently brushed aside.

I’m back at work soon and I do feel sad for ds.

I bet the people making these rules for us mums have no problem going to the pub after work though.

Toddler groups have been one of the first things to open after every lockdown. I do 2 per week plus swimming. Children don't have to socially distance and the parents are able too. Where abouts are you?

In your area @supersonicginandtonic

It doesn’t necessarily hold true for everywhere.

I don’t think there is anything free here, or if there is it is impossible to get on. There have been a lot of grumblings about it.

I do three activities a week with ds. I have worked out over a term that costs over £200!

Probably because one is outdoors and one indoors.
Also, infection rates are higher amongst young children than adults due to youngsters struggling to understand social distancing (although the same could be said for drunk adults, but pubs are allowed to reopen...)
It's rubbish- makes no sense in that young children (and their parents) would benefit more from attending such groups than adults from attending sporting fixtures. I imagine the fact that toddlers have very little spending power might have something to do with it.

The children's centres where I live have outdoor areas with toys they could use. I'm in Kent.

The senior person called me today and told me that they might reopen in September and services would be very limited because some rooms only hold four people. They held a lot more before but apparently they have shrunk during lockdown. She also said the timetable would be less but didn't have any clear reason for this and just kept using small rooms as the reason.
She said the county council had made the decision based on keeping parents safe. İ said I hoped that those decision makers were also limiting their own social lives and avoiding social settings available to them such as pubs, restaurants and house gatherings, if this is their stance on keeping parents with young children restricted.
Library also had no clear timetable on when they would allow people to sit in there.
Can go to a nightclub though...

İt's really horrible seeing my two year old daughter asking more and more to go to places and having to tell her no not today etc. I can only afford the soft play once every couple of weeks, especially with the prices being almost doubled because they're still limiting capacity. She's bored of the playground and our garden now too. She doesn't even want screen time. She must think I'm a monster. The one blessing is from today we don't have to pay £25 to go to the swimming pool so there's something we can do.