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Any Brownie/Guide Leaders? How do you keep on top of the admin?

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SockQueen · 08/07/2021 22:30

I've been involved in Guiding for almost 25 years, have had my Leadership Qualification for 13, but have always been an Assistant Leader - I attend all the meetings and residentials, and join in the termly planning meetings, but generally haven't got involved in much admin apart from that. I am qualified as a Unit Leader but for various reasons until now have never acted as one.

Well, now our Unit Leader is stepping down and someone needs to fill the gap. Fortunately, there is another AL alongside me, plus a keen young Leader in Training, so we have enough bodies, we're just trying to work out how to divvy up the workload fairly. I'm pretty up to speed with the programme, sorting stuff for weekly meetings etc, but the admin is sending my head into a spin! Thankfully the other AL is happy to deal with the accounts, so that's one headache dealt with. I'm getting to grips with GO, but it's not the most helpful system, I think I'm going to have to keep some sort of spreadsheet alongside it to keep up to date with who's done what Skills Builder/UMA/interest badge etc. Anyone have any magic solutions?

Do you all run communications electronically with parents? Do they have your personal mobile number and do you limit times you respond to texts/e-mails? I obviously want and need to be accessible, but I have a real job and a family too and don't want to be answering queries at all hours.

And then. The risk assessments. I've done them before for Pack Holidays, but the amount and complexity of paperwork seems to be growing and changing constantly especially since Covid. Everything needs to be redone and then they've changed it again before my DC can approve it. Doesn't help that half the forms don't open properly on my piece-of-crap laptop which results in more muttered swearing. Is there a way of dealing with all this without it taking up hours each week and/or driving you crazy?!

I love Guiding and desperately want our Unit to survive and thrive, but have been having a wobble that I've taken on too much!

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SisterMonicaJoansHabit · 08/07/2021 22:37

I'm still doing the qualification. But the admin is O_o

Someone needs to redesign GO

I'm desperately hoping to always be just an assistant leader.

Planning the UMAs and other badge stuff is fine but the rest is a lot.

capercaillie · 08/07/2021 22:52

I like GO.., I try and update just after meeting so it doesn’t build up.

Communications - we have email and Facebook group. They don’t have my phone number.

Risk assessments drive me mad - particularly at the moment, also have a very risk averse DC

Siepie · 08/07/2021 22:58

Former Guide/Brownie leader. I stopped just before covid so can't say anything about the new paperwork.

We had a unit email address that I and the AL both had access to. For trips, we also had a cheap PAYG phone so parents had that number but not my personal number.

My number 1 tip: give yourself an evening a week for guiding admin. Otherwise it will take over your whole life.

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SockQueen · 09/07/2021 10:39

@capercaillie

I like GO.., I try and update just after meeting so it doesn’t build up.

Communications - we have email and Facebook group. They don’t have my phone number.

Risk assessments drive me mad - particularly at the moment, also have a very risk averse DC

I'm getting into the habit of updating GO after every meeting, think that definitely helps.

We're going to have loads of new girls next term, as lots of ours left over lockdown and we now have plenty of space, which is going to be chaos! I need to take a few hours to properly get my head around exactly what needs doing for them all.

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SockQueen · 09/07/2021 10:40

@Siepie

Former Guide/Brownie leader. I stopped just before covid so can't say anything about the new paperwork.

We had a unit email address that I and the AL both had access to. For trips, we also had a cheap PAYG phone so parents had that number but not my personal number.

My number 1 tip: give yourself an evening a week for guiding admin. Otherwise it will take over your whole life.

Ooh, PAYG mobile is a great idea.

It's a shame the admin is becoming so onerous, I'm sure they're losing leaders as a result - I see why it has to be done these days but it is hard.

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bellanotte22 · 09/07/2021 10:48

The days of an hour a week are long gone. GO is one of the worst designed databases I've encountered.

AppleKatie · 09/07/2021 11:11

The parents have my personal number and the vast majority of communication happens on Whatsapp.

I haven’t had a parent abuse it yet, but if they did I would simply block them and ask the girl to leave.

Don’t be afraid of drawing lines in the sand-
Eg, do what you want to do at a time that suits you. If it doesn’t suit me and isn’t vital h&s I don’t do it and I refuse to feel guilty!

I don’t update programme info on Go- and won’t until it’s actually user friendly. I have a spreadsheet and also have the fab record sheets that you can find on the FB groups (one for each girl)- I only fill these in if I know a girl is close to a theme award and has done an interest badge. If they haven’t done a relevant badge I’m not wasting my time on weekly admin for no reason etc…

cleckheatonwanderer · 09/07/2021 11:35

I've been out of Guiding for a few years now but I remember actually emailing a huge rant about GO to their support email, it was (and sounds like it still is) so poorly designed and not fit for purpose.

The admin is what puts me off becoming a leader again, especially as it sounds like there it's worse than ever now due to covid.

I gave parents my personal number; I ignored all calls but responded to messages. I rarely heard from them thankfully but I probably wouldn't do this again if I ever did go back.

MrsFionaCharming · 09/07/2021 11:58

We have a unit closed Facebook group that all the parents have joined. They do have my number, but have never needed to message or call me as they can post questions in there.

I don’t mind updating the programme on Go, though it’s not user friendly. I struggle more with the risk assessment and financial side of things.

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