School closed until September.

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That’s it for us. Everything was normal Thursday morning. It all started to go pear shaped Thursday afternoon. Friday the school was half closed. We were told earlier today that after a sudden flood of confirmed covid cases, the school is now closing fully. We won’t be reopening until September

In Liverpool the under thirties have just been given their first jab which means that younger teachers and TAs will not be fully vaccinated until September. Walk in centres have only just opened.

I don't know why posters refuse to believe what they are being told. It is a national scandal that teachers and TA have had to wait this long for vaccines. It's not just about protecting the, but also it's common sense. If you cannot staff a school then the school cannot stay open.

@Habitualhonesty

I thought anyone who wanted one could get vaccinated now. There are members of my family who lives abroad (and have done for ages) that have had several text requesting they come in. So how are there 40 year olds. Still not double jabbed

Because since they've qualified for a vaccine 8 weeks haven't passed!

I'm 44 and booked my first before it was even publicly made available that I could do so after reading a thread on here. Took the first possible appointment within a week of it opening to my age and then had my second on the first available appointment after 8 weeks had passed. Most people my age waited for the text and couldn't get a appointment quickly or even locally so have not yet passed 8 weeks but will be getting theirs in the next 2 or 3 weeks. The UK is not a level playing field when it comes to vaccines. People aren't refusing vaccines in the main, they just haven't had their turn yet.

@Habitualhonesty

I thought anyone who wanted one could get vaccinated now. There are members of my family who lives abroad (and have done for ages) that have had several text requesting they come in. So how are there 40 year olds. Still not double jabbed

Because it has to be a certain length of time between the two jabs. I had both of mine booked but had an early one yesterday at a walk in. When I booked my initial one there was a fight to get even that, and walk ins weren’t available here.

@Habitualhonesty

Most people here (SE) didn’t wait for the ‘national’ call up - called earlier or resisted earlier and told to come in. That has skewed the timeline for us. Which maybe why I do not know if any school closures. Yes far from an even playing field. But then it never is……

I literally couldn’t book an appointment before it was opened to my age group. I didn’t sit there waiting. I was was trying every few hours.

sosad not sure about 'most' in the early months. Many had none for a long time whilst still seeing symptomatic people.

Can't trawl through do we know roughly were this is?

@SoSadAboutMyDad, i agree with you about schools. But thats sad you gave up your volunteering. You sound exactly the sort if person I'd want a chat with mooching round my local charity shop.

Whilst younger teachers may not yet have been fully vaccinated, let's not forget that their risk of severe illness from Covid is also significantly lower. I'm so glad that our school is trying very hard to keep things as normal as possible for the children. We've had one bubble close since March 2020 and that was only for 1 day due to a false positive lateral flow test.

@ichundich

Whilst younger teachers may not yet have been fully vaccinated, let's not forget that their risk of severe illness from Covid is also significantly lower. I'm so glad that our school is trying very hard to keep things as normal as possible for the children. We've had one bubble close since March 2020 and that was only for 1 day due to a false positive lateral flow test.

I’m 46. I had my second jab a week early yesterday. I had my first as quickly as I could possibly book it. It’s not just the 20 somethings who haven’t had two jabs.

There have been walk-in centres running for several weeks now; no need to book.

@EastWestWhosBest
I literally couldn’t book an appointment before it was opened to my age group.
I didn’t sit there waiting. I was was trying every few hours.

Same.

I was listening to a Headteacher describing a pilot scheme his school was involved in, the gist of it seemed to be that if a child tested positive, they were sent home to isolate, the other staff and children who were negative, could still come to school ( with consent from the childrens parents ) but were tested every day for x number of days, they also had to isolate outside of school during this time, so could come into school but couldn't socialise outside school.

My school has heard rumours of this too.
Positive case stays off. The rest of the bubble come in and test every day and only go off if positive.
In some ways it’s good as it means less people miss school but I can see some parents getting annoyed that their child will have to be tested everyday.

"I'm so glad that our school is trying very hard to keep things as normal as possible for the children."

Are you suggesting that some schools are not trying very hard?

@ichundich

There have been walk-in centres running for several weeks now; no need to book.

Sigh.

Yes, but they weren’t when I booked my first appointment. I then couldn’t get my second until however many weeks later.
Walk in places only opened up here a couple of weeks ago.

There have been walk-in centres running for several weeks now; no need to book.

Yes but they won’t jab you if it’s not 8 weeks since your first.

Some people don’t seem to understand that people aren’t instantly double vaccinated the minute bookings open for their age group even if they booked their vaccine straight away.

Another effort to blame teachers instead of the system.

The walk in centre in my area are only open for one day a week, the rest of the time it’s bookings only. Thursday between 8-5 and there’s a pretty good chance that no one working in a school would be any to make that.

My 24yo DC is a teacher, received his first vaccination yesterday. Had one booked for almost 2 weeks ago (booked as soon as he could) but couldn't attend as he was isolating due to cases in his class. Next one already booked for end of Aug (8 weeks after first). Should have full protection from the vaccine within a couple of weeks of new term.

Bagamoyo1
School staff weren’t left unprotected. Kids have worn masks since schools reopened in March. And anyone over 18 could have been vaccinated weeks ago.

There is some serious rewriting of history in there.
But just enough "truth" to make people think. Well done.

@ichundich

There have been walk-in centres running for several weeks now; no need to book.

In YOUR area maybe, they have only been going for about 2 weeks here and are very limited in terms of timings. Almost all of them are Pfiser so if you had Moderna or AZ as your first jab they are unsuitable.

Except that two jabs doesn't mean 'full protection' unfortunately.

People are contracting the virus after being double vaccinated, and some are very, very ill.

@noblegiraffe

There have been walk-in centres running for several weeks now; no need to book.

Yes but they won’t jab you if it’s not 8 weeks since your first.

Some people don’t seem to understand that people aren’t instantly double vaccinated the minute bookings open for their age group even if they booked their vaccine straight away.

Another effort to blame teachers instead of the system.

Exactly. Bizarre. 🙄

I'm over 40 and won't be double jabbed until next week.

@ichundich

Whilst younger teachers may not yet have been fully vaccinated, let's not forget that their risk of severe illness from Covid is also significantly lower. I'm so glad that our school is trying very hard to keep things as normal as possible for the children. We've had one bubble close since March 2020 and that was only for 1 day due to a false positive lateral flow test.

Again, the term SEVERE illness is debatable. Even with both vaccines you can be very sick and in bed for a couple of weeks - it just reduces the chance of hospitalisation and death. If a teacher is off sick and enough of their colleagues are off sick, the school can’t open. This is one of the scenarios where mask wearing by children would limit the spread of Covid. As the effectiveness of the vaccines wanes (if it does), then it is essential that school staff are given boosters immediately. Even if you don’t care about teachers dying or being hospitalised, the scenario at the moment shows that if enough children are infected, adults who spend time with them will be ill and absent from school. If the effectiveness of the vaccine fails, they will be off in greater numbers and for longer. Then schools will close.

"Even if you don’t care about teachers dying or being hospitalised, the scenario at the moment shows that if enough children are infected, adults who spend time with them will be ill and absent from school. If the effectiveness of the vaccine fails, they will be off in greater numbers and for longer. Then schools will close."

Which is, of course, what some teachers on here have been pointing out for months. And now it's actually happening and we still have people denying it or saying it's "ridiculous" and "unnecessary." Or down to certain schools not trying hard enough.