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You know you are a night owl when it's not so strange to....

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cateycloggs · 11/06/2021 03:32

Having been over stimulated by talk of night mowing on another thread I thought I'd see what over night owls really love about the night hours. I find At this time of year the smell of the night air can be as intoxicating as strong drink. Relecting on that I've realised it's always been the case with me since I was a young child I have postponed sleep and felt better and better after midnight. I have been watching TV tonight but often sit in silence just enjoying. Though now I can hear a wee bird starting to sing.

So I don't think it is strange to want to go out and garden in the night. What else is not so strange?

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memberofthewedding · 13/06/2021 02:52

Always been a bit of a night owl and resented having to keep regular hours when I was employed. In my 70s now and self employed. I sell antiques online - most customers are in USA so I am often awake at 2-4 am answering emails and wrapping packages. I dont usually go outside but I love the fact that its quiet - no lawnmowers, screaming kids or car engines revving up. I go to bed when I feel tired - sleep for about 4 hours and then have a nap in the pm as well. So sleep about 7 hours in 24.

cateycloggs · 13/06/2021 03:26

@GingerKittyKat, my cat is ginger too! Thanks for your post, I have seen reference before to a possible syndrome or condition. I just made a post on a different thread about violence in families which is relevant here because one reason I stayed awake as a child is the sound of rows from downstairs. I never felt safe to fall asleep till everyone was in bed, often tried to comfort or distract younger siblings by telling stories, felt very guilty the rows may be about me.

Over the years I have seen psycologists for depression and mentioned the sleeping thing but I have always felt ashamed it is just laziness and unwillingness to engage with or accept reality/normality. I can't imagine any doctor would see it differently.

I don't know where is the line between personal preference and a disorder or syndrome. I have always accepted I am unusually lazy and unmotivated so put things off till it's just past the last possible moment. Have done the same all my life with the exception of working years when I had to get up so slept earlier but did resent it.

Quite simply I would always much rather be somewhere else. I'd much rather be sitting on that beach with you than sleeping now to be able to go out in good time for the shops tomorrow which is quite reasonable, I think.

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Silkiecats · 13/06/2021 03:55

I am often a night owl. The birds are singing here, they never seem to stop but its lovely to listen to.

Stinkywizzleteets · 13/06/2021 05:06

Pre-kids I worked until 4am and. I loved the smell of that time, especially in summer. I loved wandering through the city streets (or driving) and seeing small signs of life emerging. I’d often drive to the beach with my dogs and enjoy the solitude. It was true happiness without relying on others.

I was very agoraphobic after a couple of attacks in a short space of time so felt much safer when everyone else was in bed. I’m also a natural night owl so I come alive at 11pm onwards.

I miss my nocturnal meandering.

Frownette · 13/06/2021 05:19

I accidentally got drunk last night with 2 Russians. Because my sense of humour is not very funny I said "well let's just see what Putin says about this..." and they did look quite terrified. I put on 2 washes last night before duvet then came around very confused just now. Lots of damp clean clothes and I was wondering where the fuck my duvet was but have pulled it out of the machine now. I think you are supposed to get drunk then snog someone, NOT do a weeks of worth washing in one go. I'm abstaining from alcohol from now on.

sashh · 13/06/2021 07:32

@Frownette You didn't snog at least one Russian?

Gingerkittykat · 13/06/2021 11:16

[quote cateycloggs]@GingerKittyKat, my cat is ginger too! Thanks for your post, I have seen reference before to a possible syndrome or condition. I just made a post on a different thread about violence in families which is relevant here because one reason I stayed awake as a child is the sound of rows from downstairs. I never felt safe to fall asleep till everyone was in bed, often tried to comfort or distract younger siblings by telling stories, felt very guilty the rows may be about me.

Over the years I have seen psycologists for depression and mentioned the sleeping thing but I have always felt ashamed it is just laziness and unwillingness to engage with or accept reality/normality. I can't imagine any doctor would see it differently.

I don't know where is the line between personal preference and a disorder or syndrome. I have always accepted I am unusually lazy and unmotivated so put things off till it's just past the last possible moment. Have done the same all my life with the exception of working years when I had to get up so slept earlier but did resent it.

Quite simply I would always much rather be somewhere else. I'd much rather be sitting on that beach with you than sleeping now to be able to go out in good time for the shops tomorrow which is quite reasonable, I think.[/quote]
I also had a tough time growing up and because of that stayed awake until I felt it safe to go to sleep, which was 3am. I have no idea if that partly reset my body clock or if it would be naturally like that.

You can ask for a referral to a sleep clinic if you want.

I've tried for many years to reset my sleep to normal. It's worked for a few months at a time but ultimately my body goes back to it's natural rhythm. I've now given up, I don't have young children and can work mostly when I want.

Someone I know is writing a book about DSPS and she says it's just another chronotype. In evolutionary terms we would have needed people who were awake at night to guard the fire etc, it's just now people like us are seen as abnormal or lazy.

Gingerkittykat · 13/06/2021 11:18

@Frownette

I accidentally got drunk last night with 2 Russians. Because my sense of humour is not very funny I said "well let's just see what Putin says about this..." and they did look quite terrified. I put on 2 washes last night before duvet then came around very confused just now. Lots of damp clean clothes and I was wondering where the fuck my duvet was but have pulled it out of the machine now. I think you are supposed to get drunk then snog someone, NOT do a weeks of worth washing in one go. I'm abstaining from alcohol from now on.
Can you invite me to your next party, please?
RickiTarr · 13/06/2021 16:58

Someone I know is writing a book about DSPS and she says it's just another chronotype. In evolutionary terms we would have needed people who were awake at night to guard the fire etc, it's just now people like us are seen as abnormal or lazy.

How interesting. Any chance of you coming back to plug the book when it’s out?

cateycloggs · 13/06/2021 19:17

@GingerKittyKat, I probably don't need to explain not replying sooner. I googled DSPS a bit and there does seem to be cross over between being (physically) unable to sleep normal hours and voluntarily being a night owl for one's own pleasure as discussed here.

I think I would always have enjoyed the night more but certainly family problems stopped me sleeping when young and made me hyper - aware. Then I had to share accommodation with strangers who I did not trust for many years so I kept my eye on them. I have always hated being put in a situation where you might need to sleep in public - long journeys, camping (extremely rare fortunately) etc.

So being older and not having these restrictions is great though my occupations are very banal. They make me happy.

@Frownette how did you meet 2 Russians?

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Gingerkittykat · 14/06/2021 02:51

@RickiTarr

Someone I know is writing a book about DSPS and she says it's just another chronotype. In evolutionary terms we would have needed people who were awake at night to guard the fire etc, it's just now people like us are seen as abnormal or lazy.

How interesting. Any chance of you coming back to plug the book when it’s out?

Yes.
BillyShears · 14/06/2021 03:05

I’ve found my people! I’m at my most alive and creative between around 11pm and 4am. I hate that the world runs to the opposite time schedule to me!

I’m enjoying the cool air from the windows and listening to The Beatles White Album. I’ll regret it tomorrow when I have to do the school run, but for now it’s glorious.

romdowa · 14/06/2021 03:16

I'm not a night owl by choice sadly ! I've a sleep disorder and my body has a difficult relationship with sleep. I usually just play games , read or use my phone until I hopefully become tired enough to sleep 🤣🤣 reading this thread though has me wondering why I don't do something more productive with this time!

RickiTarr · 14/06/2021 19:30

Fabulous @Gingerkittykat thanks.

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