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Any bread bakers who can help me?

36 replies

DK123 · 09/06/2021 14:28

Hoping a fellow baker might be able to help me work out how to make bread a bit like something I loved but can't get any more!

There used to be a loaf sold by Cooplands bakeries around Doncaster (not the same company as the Cooplands in Scarborough etc). It was very heavy and very dark, with quite a malty taste. It was very moist and had a lot of flavour to it. I loved it so much and haven't managed to find anything like it since or recreate it!

Does anyone who makes their own bread have any suggestions for what kinds of flours (or other additions) I could try to get a really really dark (as dark as chocolate brown) bread, which isn't at all dry and has that tasty, grainy, malty flavour to it?

I've tried mixing rye, wholemeal, doves farm malthouse flour in varying combinations and I can't get anything close to it.

If anyone has any ideas or suggestions I'd be very grateful! It's a very heavy bread and I've never found anything like it in a shop since!

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tunnocksreturns2019 · 09/06/2021 14:29

Hmm. I make a rye and spelt loaf but sounds like this one is even darker

applesandpears33 · 09/06/2021 14:31

Would a spoonful of marmite help with the malty flavour?

tunnocksreturns2019 · 09/06/2021 14:31

www.ocado.com/products/karaway-bakery-lithuanian-scalded-rye-480098011

Is it like this?

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tunnocksreturns2019 · 09/06/2021 14:33

www.jocooks.com/recipes/dark-rye-bread/

DK123 · 09/06/2021 14:33

@tunnocksreturns2019 actually it could be a bit like that! It certainly looked very like it. Thank you, I will try that and see how similar it is!

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tunnocksreturns2019 · 09/06/2021 14:33

This one has molasses and cocoa powder!

DK123 · 09/06/2021 14:33

@applesandpears33 that's a really good idea, I never thought of that! I'll give it a go!

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DK123 · 09/06/2021 14:35

@tunnocksreturns2019 I could imagine it may well have had molasses in it. I think it was probably from a very old recipe the bakery had been using for a long time, I know my grandparents had been buying it since they were young. My grandma described it as "roughage" flavour but I'm not sure what she meant exactly

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SirenSays · 09/06/2021 14:36

Your description made me think of this.
www.pantsdownapronson.com/dark-rye-bread/

DK123 · 09/06/2021 14:39

@SirenSays it does seem similar to the Russian breads, which is interesting because my DDad always insisted it was nothing like rye bread, but I think it is, but with something like molasses making it very different to the more stereotypical dryness of rye breads.

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JesusInTheCabbageVan · 09/06/2021 14:43

I can't help OP, but since you've already attracted some bakers, would you mind if I hijack your thread and ask if anyone can help me make white bread like my granny used to? I've thought about starting a thread before but really have very little to go on.

Description: white bread, quite well risen, with a rough-ish, dry texture and almost a 'flat', slightly mineral taste. Possibly something to do with the water where she lived, in which case I can't recreate it, but if anyone has any ideas....?I

Derail over, my apologies.

Summerhillsquare · 09/06/2021 14:45

Use barley malt instead of sugar? Almost like a malt loaf but not as sweet?

Kissthepastrychef · 09/06/2021 14:57

Adding Treacle is the answer

Kissthepastrychef · 09/06/2021 14:59

Here's a recipe www.cuisinefiend.com/359/treacle-rye-bread

Kissthepastrychef · 09/06/2021 15:00

You could also try extract of malt instead of treacle which will give you the flavour

DK123 · 09/06/2021 15:01

@Kissthepastrychef I'd never thought of using treacle. Have you ever made bread with treacle in it? If so, do you think it makes it more difficult to do?

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fallfallfall · 09/06/2021 15:04

Look up Pumpernickle bread recipes
I think it’s the darkest of breads.

Dinky2004 · 09/06/2021 15:16

This is a Swedish recipe for bread I love that I make a lot as can't get it over here unfortunately but it sounds very similar to what you are after.
The ragsikt is a mix of white flour and rye which I buy from Holland & Barret but can be bought online as well

Any bread bakers who can help me?
ohsuzannah · 09/06/2021 15:23

I buy Doves farm Malthouse, it makes a lovely loaf!

DK123 · 09/06/2021 15:24

@Dinky2004 that looks like a really nice recipe - thank you!

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SingingInTheShithouse · 09/06/2021 15:28

This sounds like a Stout Rye bread to me, I remember been given it visiting Lancashire family.

Dinky2004 · 09/06/2021 15:28

It's amazing, my mum lives in Sweden and obviously I haven't been able to get over there, the running joke in my family is that I miss the bread more than my mum Grin
Hope it's close to what you are looking for.

DK123 · 09/06/2021 16:02

@SingingInTheShithouse it's possible it had stout in it! I have noticed more bread recipes with types of beer in them recently

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DK123 · 09/06/2021 16:03

@Dinky2004 I hope you'll be able to see your mum and the bread very soon! Can I just check what a decilitre is and how you measure that when you follow the recipes?

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sueelleker · 09/06/2021 16:19

[quote DK123]@Dinky2004 I hope you'll be able to see your mum and the bread very soon! Can I just check what a decilitre is and how you measure that when you follow the recipes?[/quote]
A decilitre is 100mL (one tenth of a litre)