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Off sick most all year

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OrangePowder · 03/06/2021 08:00

DH's employers have been great and really supported him.

It's bonus time and he's got double what he got last year! They've given him fully achieved when last year, when he was working, he just missed one of his targets.

Obviously great for him financially, but he's a bit miffed that he actually worked really hard to get as close as he did last year and this year...

If he's miffed, imagine how you'd feel as a colleague if you knew DH, off all year, had done better than you. Presmuably colleagues will never know, but is this the norm, that people off sick are assumed to have met all targets?

There is potential to do better, if you exceed everything (ie they haven't given him the top bonus) but lots of people don't quite meet all the targets, as DH last year.

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OrangePowder · 03/06/2021 08:02

Well that title makes no sense. I was going to say all year, then realised it was 11 of the 12 months.

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lavenderandwisteria · 03/06/2021 08:05

imagine how you'd feel as a colleague if you knew DH, off all year, had done better than you

I’m not trying to sound holier than thou or anything, but I wouldn’t feel anything beyond wishing him good health. I mean, he could hardly reach those targets when sick, so it’s the only fair way, isn’t it?

Hopdathelf · 03/06/2021 08:05

They might be concerned about disability discrimination if they effectively remove bonuses from those who don’t work for health reasons. Aren’t you pleased he’s being judged on the work he did do, albeit for a short period? I appreciate you’ve posted to try and address your confusion but I’m sure some people will see a stealth boast in there. Threads about husbands’ big bonuses always go down badly.

AllThatFancyPaintsAsFair · 03/06/2021 08:07

My job doesn't have a bonus scheme and I don't quite understand your post but yes, I'd be annoyed if someone who hadn't been at work got more bonus that me (is that what you mean?)

This is nothing to do with legal or contractual issues, wouldn't most people be annoyed in this situation if they are honest especially as most of us have had a really hard time worksite in the past year.

OrangePowder · 03/06/2021 08:08

Hes not been judged on the work he did do. He was quite unwell for the short time he was there, by his own admission, he didn't do anything.

FWIW, it's not a "big" bonus, not in the way MN thinks of them anyway. It's enough for a family package holiday in the Med. Smile

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OrangePowder · 03/06/2021 08:09

@AllThatFancyPaintsAsFair

My job doesn't have a bonus scheme and I don't quite understand your post but yes, I'd be annoyed if someone who hadn't been at work got more bonus that me (is that what you mean?)

This is nothing to do with legal or contractual issues, wouldn't most people be annoyed in this situation if they are honest especially as most of us have had a really hard time worksite in the past year.

Yes, that's exactly what I mean.
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MistySkiesAfterRain · 03/06/2021 08:14

Surely they have to put that they met targets and the bonus is just the outcome of having met the targets. I'm glad for you but your post is a bit pointless to be honest because what you describe most likely applies to a small industry and a specific employer. I imagine other companies have some kind of other scheme regarding bonus payouts for those on sick leave, and I also think its probably discretionary and down to your husbands good record and the companies financial success in the last year. Don't look a gift horse in the month is what I'm saying, just be thankful you are so lucky.

MistySkiesAfterRain · 03/06/2021 08:16

It could just as easily have happened to them though, I'm assuming your DH has been seriously ill.

Fitforforty · 03/06/2021 08:23

Would DH prefer if it if the sick person didn’t get their bonus? Because that’s the option. The sick person getting a bonus has no impact on if your DH received his. I think he should be grateful that he works for an employer who is supportive and enjoy his bonus. Comparison is the thief of joy.

OrangePowder · 03/06/2021 08:38

It's the exact opposite of a small industry or a small employer. Large multinational in a huge international marketplace.

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EuroTrashed · 03/06/2021 08:42

Bonus targets are usually group / company level and not individual so the whole te makes the number or doesn’t regardless how hard or not the individual members work. It would be highly discriminatory to fail to pay a bonus for a target met to someone on maternity leave or disabled etc etc. You have no idea whether individuals who have excelled have received discretionary payments on top (again a common scenario and useful for people who have worked hard and targets not met).
Don’t over think it. And do t discuss bonuses with colleagues obv

Foxyloxy1plus1 · 03/06/2021 08:43

A family package holiday to the Med would feel like a big bonus to me. Having never had one or been in a career that offers thrm.

JingleCatJingle · 03/06/2021 08:45

Comparison is the thief of joy.
Be happy about the bonus, this bitterness serves no function.

daisypond · 03/06/2021 08:49

It could easily be discriminatory not to pay someone a bonus because they were off sick. They could qualify as disabled.

It seems odd to me that an employee gets a bonus for hitting targets. Surely that would be the basic of the job. It’s more usual that it would just mean that you keep your job. Those that miss the targets are put on a performance review with a view to dismissal.

Mugsen · 03/06/2021 08:49

I will admit to having felt annoyed when a colleague who had been off sick for nearly a year got the same bonus as me, when I'd had to do two jobs throughout that time. It's a natural response I think. Maybe just keep it quiet. I guess it's worked out collectively and it's seen as discriminatory not to. It is nice to know they value him so much. They sound a nice employer.

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