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Is DP being treated badly or is this standard family stuff?!

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Polahs · 01/06/2021 16:56

I haven’t been with DP long, just over a year. Because of covid we obviously haven’t seen his dad and brother much at all and it’s always been outside and very short. I have only been twice. DP gets quite agitated when he is in contact with them, not in a way where he doesn’t want to speak to them, he’s very very close to them after his mum passed when he was a child. But the dynamic is unusual, his older brother lives with his elderly dad and seems a bit controlling.

This morning we went over for a drink in the garden. My DP got up to go to the bathroom and his brother apparently followed him in and asked why he was taking his coat off. DP said because he needed to sit down. Brother apparently went mad saying why can’t you do that in your own house, you shouldn’t be doing that here. Brother was off with us for the rest of the time we were there and then apparently later apologised to DP for the outburst. DP told me he is never allowed to stay there and at Christmas for instance, he has to get a taxi back to his place because his brother doesn’t like him staying. Apparently his brother considers him unclean after he is out and about (DP goes out to work, only in an office!!) but his brother is unemployed and is obsessively clean.

DP said they are very insular and he worries about them. The other night I heard him on the phone apologising for calling ten minutes early which had apparently caused his brother to snap at him. DP was in tears after the call but as soon as his brother text to apologise, he was saying his brother is great again and that all families have things like this?!

I am sure the advice is stay well out of it (and I have so far) but this dynamic is unusual surely? It has concerned me that DP sees it as normal. My family are far from perfect but they wouldn’t be sending me home on new year or Christmas Eve or not allow me to use the bathroom!!

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Theunamedcat · 01/06/2021 16:59

The brother sounds like a weirdo and I come from a family of weirdos myself

PleasantBirthday · 01/06/2021 16:59

It sounds like his brother may be struggling with his mental health.

I don't think that behaviour is normal.

BuffySummersReportingforSanity · 01/06/2021 16:59

Your DP's brother has serious mental health issues and your DP has been "trained" over time to accommodate them and put himself last.

Is that unknown or extremely rare? No. Is that okay? No. Is that extremely damaging? Yes.

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Polahs · 01/06/2021 17:11

Yes I think he definitely has mental health problems for sure. I touched on this a bit earlier and DP just said yes he does think his brother has OCD.

I just feel so bad for DP as he is so close to them both and I get the sense they have clung together over the years after their mum passed. But whenever he speaks to them it’s such a strange dynamic. That’s not to say they don’t support DP, they do. They are in contact a lot and it’s obvious they care. But not allowing him to stay at Christmas and not letting him go to the toilet is just so awful to my mind and I can’t get my head around the fact DP sees it as normal ‘family stuff.’

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UpTheJunktion · 01/06/2021 17:19

No, all families are not like this - it is about your BIL's mental health issues around cleanliness / dirt / 'outsiders' etc.

It isn't 'awful' in that it isn't personal, and your BIL almost certainly can't help it. Unless he recognises that he has issues (could be severe anxiety could be some other disorder like OCD etc) and seeks help to address it.

Aprilwasverywet · 01/06/2021 17:20

Meet up in a cafe. Or not at all.
Dh doesn't need to accept this abusive behaviour just because they are related.

Polahs · 01/06/2021 17:24

@Aprilwasverywet good idea. I’m not going to get involved I don’t think, I just feel awful for DP and concerned if he sees it as normal! He is so lovely too and doesn’t deserve that treatment.

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CorvusPurpureus · 01/06/2021 17:27

Is BIL like this with other people? If he's struggling with being compulsiveness over cleanliness, he might well be internally freaking out at the thought of someone pooing in 'his' bathroom or sleeping over when they've been outside which he perceives as 'dirty'.

Does he ever have friends round? Does he go out himself?

I'm just wondering if this is aimed personally at his brother, or more of a general MH issue.

CorvusPurpureus · 01/06/2021 17:28

Oh sorry - xpost with UpTheJunktion.

Polahs · 01/06/2021 17:29

@CorvusPurpureus I think it’s mental health, he doesn’t see anyone at all, him and his dad just stay in the house everyday. Food delivered etc. I suggested going out for lunch with them and DP was absolutely categorical that they would never in a million years want to do that. He said the last time they went out as a family was ten years ago.

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BelleBlueBell · 01/06/2021 17:31

That is in no way normal, it sounds like some quite severe mental health issues might be affecting the brother.

Please tell your DP not to feel he has to be treated like that, could he cuy down his contact with the toxic brother

Polahs · 01/06/2021 17:32

@BelleBlueBell I did say he shouldn’t accept that treatment but it just makes him go into defensive mode.

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Etinox · 01/06/2021 17:43

I’d think very carefully about staying in the relationship. Your partner ideally should completely change the relationship or go NC but he seems oblivious. If you’re the one to make that happen that puts in a precarious position. If nothing changes and you stay together you’re in for a lifetime of suppressing your needs and supporting him. Even more if you
he kids.

Theunamedcat · 01/06/2021 19:23

He seems very defensive and protective over his family and them mistreatment of him are you thinking of long term with him? Kids? How will that work? Babies poo and need Changing will that "not be allowed"?

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