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it wasn't about the scotch egg !!!

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dizzycatdance2 · 17/05/2021 18:11

I’d love some insight and outside perspective on this.

Arranging to meet up with my sis.

We live an hour apart ,and ( pre coivd) would meet at nice X town equidistant from both of us.

Would have a coffee / lunch at “Kelly’s” café, this was a big part of the day.

I’ve driven to hers three times for garden visits. Sheltered as best as possible when it rained. She has been quite anxious over covid.

Text messages

Me: Do you fancy meeting at X town to go round the charity shops ?
Sis: No, I’m not happy to go round shops yet
Sis : How about a car boot near you ?
Me : Oh there’s a really good one in town Y
Sis : No that will make my journey to long ( 2.5 hour round trip vs 2 hour round trip )
(Car boot in my town decided on)
Sis : I’ll bring a flask of coffee.
Me : You can come to mine for a drink afterwards
Sis : We can’t meet indoors.
Me : I Meant in the garden
Sis: It might rain
*Me : I’ve got the gazebo up
Sis : Lets meet at X town.
Me : We can have on outdoor coffee at Kelly’s café
Sis : I’ll bring my flask
Me: How about we sit in my camper van ? ( doors open / windows down etc )
Sis : no , there’s a lovely church yard we can sit in.

So by the time we did meet up I was a put out that every suggestion I had made was turned down. I think she doesn’t want to come to my house.

On the day

In a shop, I had my umbrella with me.

Me : Oh I must not forget that when we leave
Sis : Oh put it back in the car
Me : I’d rather have it with me
Sis: I’ll walk with you , we can go together
Me: It ok I’m happy to carry it
Sis : It will be easier if we take it back
Me : Id would like to keep it with me ( I had to be quite forceful with this)

Then later on looking at come cakes etc in a shop window, they were expensive, massive slices, but the sort that are realllllyyyy nice and worth the price for a treat. Proper scotch eggs , all hand made etc

Me : Oh I might buy those for Ds birthday tea tomorrow
Sis : What you are going to buy 4 , that’s a lot of money.
Me : ( doubting myself) Oh well I’d buy one or two and then we’d share, oh well I suppose the pudding I ve got already is ok.
Me: ( hungry at this point) Oh I think I’ll have a scotch egg !
Sis : No, no don’t get that it so expensive, we can get a sausage roll from Z shop.

At this point I was just “ Fine , fine” and she was then all “ well do what you want” etc etc but TBF by then I’d just had enough.

We fell out, sis “I KNEW it was about the scotch egg” . I got upset but we did have a coffee and (I assumed) talked things thorough.

I apologised for upsetting her. Apparently she wanted me to take the brolly back in case I knocked over something in the shops and broke as “I know you don’t have much money”.

I am not massively well off but It’s not like I have £££££ in debt and I’m off booking trips to NYC.

For context she often buys clothes that she doesn’t need ( and tells me she doesn’t need ) but it’s her money, I would never question it. She is on an economy drive herself atm so that may have coloured her view of the day.

The next day I wrote a long , ( I thought thoughtful ) text apologizing again and explaining some difficulties I’ve been having recently that may have added to my sensitivity on the day , I thanked her for coming out for her first away from home visit since the first lockdown and suggesting we meet for a car boot when she was free.
She simply responded “ a car boot in the summer would be good” no reference to the rest of the text at all.

I am very much a people pleaser and (after 20 years of an abusive marriage) I am trying to work on my very low self-esteem.

I will just agree to keep the peace and just don’t “answer back” at all , so Sis is , I suppose, used to that and , without her realizing , that is how out interactions play out. I’ve done it for so long that I don’t even realize that I am just “giving in”.

I see it so often recommended “Just tell the other person what you want to happed” etc etc but I tried that with my Sis and it just ended really badly.

I am trying to see it all his from her point of view and see what I could have done differently.

I doubt I will hear form her for months now.

On another occasion a few years ago I was very, very upset, really distressed, nothing to do with her, but the whole situation just came to head whilst I was with her. She did support me and I went home. I did hear anything for her for two months.

It may sound like I bring drama to our meetings but all our many, many meetups apart from 2 have been drama free. I think I need to realize that, for whatever reason, she finds me getting distressed difficult to deal with and keep to lighter topics.

Reading this back it seems petty , it was only an egg TBF , but it just felt so controlling.

Any advice appreciated.

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Justmuddlingalong · 17/05/2021 18:13

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Babymamaroon · 17/05/2021 18:18

I think she sounds controlling and quite rude.

Relationships are a 2-way thing and the chances are she wouldn't have treated a friend the way she treated you.

My sis is exactly like this and it's so tiresome having to dance to her tune at all times.

I think you've done the grown up thing by communicating your feelings. For her to just ignore it and then sulk for 2 months, just highlights her emotional immaturity. You need to step back and not chase.

Am sorry you're dealing with this as I'm sure it's upsetting Thanks

dizzycatdance2 · 17/05/2021 18:20

Sorry about the lack of paragraphs, it looked great on my laptop .

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dizzycatdance2 · 17/05/2021 18:21

Thanks, it's just upsetting as we (usually) have a lovley day together, something I really look forward to.

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Iwouldlikesomecake · 17/05/2021 18:24

Honestly she just seems to slap you down. You suggest something, she says no and wants to do something else for some spurious reason. I mean who is worried about taking an umbrella in a shop unless the person has some kind of spatial awareness issue?? I don’t think this situation is of your doing tbh.

MrsVeryTired · 17/05/2021 18:26

Is she your older sister? Look up Parent/Adult/Child model of relationships. I have a friend you often seems to act like a "parent" and it really irritates me sometimes, I'm a grown woman!

My older sis does this sometimes too and its a really difficult thing to move out of.

dizzycatdance2 · 17/05/2021 18:26

TBF I did nearly catch a shelf with it but the "take it back" conversation was before that.

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Namechangeforthis88 · 17/05/2021 18:26

I've come to accept that it's pointless suggesting meet ups to my brother, as nothing is ever right unless it's his idea, but your sister is taking to another level.

Sorry, I don't have any suggestions, but she sounds exhausting, and I doubt she speaks to people she respects in that way.

dizzycatdance2 · 17/05/2021 18:28

My ability to see what's "reasonable" behaviour is very coloured by my marriage to my ex,

Everything I either wanted or needed was irrelevant and he was really good at gaslighting.

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dizzycatdance2 · 17/05/2021 18:33

I did feel like a little child, tbf if i want to buy a f**g scotch egg then , at 52 years of age, I bloody well will !!

She is my older sister.

It make a me sad more than anything tbh, that I can't have a "getting distressed" relationship with her.

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UKhun · 17/05/2021 18:38

To be honest it sounds like she has major anxiety issues.
Look up catastrophising. I don't think this is about you or anything you did at all. The comment about being worried you'd break something with the umbrella is her issue not yours.

Wishingwell75 · 17/05/2021 18:43

Has this always been the dynamic between you two or has it got worse over the years?

dizzycatdance2 · 17/05/2021 18:50

She gas taken the whole pandemic quite hard , affected her more than I ever thought it would.

I work / volunteer in the nhs so more "at risk" than her job, but, she us of course, entitled to "feel" anyway she pleases.

I couldn't really say if it has always been this way as I've only recently really started looking at the relationships I have with others

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MrsVeryTired · 17/05/2021 18:53

Hmm, after reading up a bit on the relationships stuff, it seems like she likes to be the Parent when decisions are being made, where to go, what to do, what to eat! But not when care is needed, so if you want a little bit of compassion then she's straight back into "we're both adults, I don't need to look after you" even though she seems to want to make the decisions for you. Difficult.

Have you thought about/or had any therapy, after your abusive relationship, because that might also help with negative patterns with significant others, like your sister. Not that its you at fault, just to help stand up for yourself a bit.

Whatwouldnanado · 17/05/2021 18:54

She sounds very anxious and quite exhausting company. I bet she won't take it kindly if you offer her help. I suggest you gently withdraw for a while, take fun friends with you next time. Life's too short to skip on a Scotch egg!

dizzycatdance2 · 17/05/2021 19:03

I have had and am going to have more therapy. I may even eat a scotch eat whilst having therapy!!

I do really enjoy our days out together so I will need to come up.with a strategy for that so that it is beneficial for me and her.

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dizzycatdance2 · 17/05/2021 19:04

It was a proper artisan one, rolled in something tasty with a fancy name, "spelt" or the like

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Tinselandlights · 17/05/2021 19:17

I'm finding some people are quite hard work at the moment - the pandemic has taken its toll on people's' mental health.

My dad absolutely tore a strip off me yesterday for something really minor, he is usually really mild mannered and I think the stress of the past year has made him more fussy/angsty than usual.

Wishingwell75 · 17/05/2021 19:29

Forget the scotch eggs - it was the cakes you mentioned that intrigued me! I really wish you had bought the birthday tea things if you fancied them OP!
Seriously though, I think you may have hit the nail on the head when you explained how the pandemic has increased your dsis' anxiety. She's imaging every type of problem - breaking things with the umbrella and a lot of concerns about money.
Doesn't mean that you should bare the brunt of it though, not at all. I expect she's worse with you than others because she can be.
It also sounds like maybe there are other issues around boundaries and close relationships that have led to you seeking counseling, so I hope this goes really well for you and that things change for the better!
First exercise is going back to that shop and buying your tea of dreams! Grin

dizzycatdance2 · 17/05/2021 19:32

They were MASSIVE slices of cheese cake , the sort where you need to tackle the left face then take a rest.

To far away to go and get any , I shall have to suffice woth a flake.

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DoAsYouWouldBeMumBy · 17/05/2021 19:38

@dizzycatdance2

Sorry about the lack of paragraphs, it looked great on my laptop .
Paragraphs all in place, don't worry Smile
DoAsYouWouldBeMumBy · 17/05/2021 19:43

I know that it's a bit rude, but I sometimes find it helpful when a female relative/friend (of similar age) is bossy and controlling like this, to say, in a light tone, "Thanks, Mum!" Or "Thanks, Gran!" I feel like it's a friendly enough way to say - "Back off, I'm 52, and I know what I'm doing Hmm".

Or I just do an eyebrow. I've been told I have a heck of an eyebrow on me 🤣

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