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Would you approach school about this?

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BlueLovingGirl · 13/05/2021 16:48

DD aged 6; year 2 has open access to the toilets at school as she has a joint condition that can mask the feeling of her needing to go to the toilet. She often doesn’t tell anyone until the very last moment – even when she’s with me, if we go to the supermarket or on a day out I always make sure I know where the toilets are as she will literally tell me as she’s about to burst that she needs to go and we have to run to them (having to look for them wastes time and means more chance of accidents) – we’re working on this with physio but it’s hard and common with her condition for them to not feel the need to go. We’re strengthening the muscles in that area so hopefully when she does realise she needs to go she has enough time to get there without accidents.

Recently DDs been coming out of school in her spare uniform after toileting accidents more often than normal (usually have 1-2 accidents a week, it’s not 4-5 a week). Usually there would be a note in her home-school diary but I’m not getting this which suggests it’s happening outside of class.

DD has said there is one particular lunchtime lady (as she calls them) that insists she cannot go inside to go to the toilet after they’ve been sent out to play, DD is not confident enough to say she has to go and I’m not sure if the lunchtime supervisors are aware of the issues. DD is not distressed and says this lady always helps her get changed when she has an accident so I want to approach from that point of view rather than all guns blazing.

So would you email school about this or leave it as DD is not upset? I'm not sure lunchtime access to toilets classes as a reasonable adjustment.

For added context we will eventually build up to her holding her bladder/bowel for a few minutes but we have to strengthen the other muscles first in order to do this.

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Newmama29 · 13/05/2021 18:04

I find it almost draconian that we don’t allow children to use the toilet when they ask. I remember being 16 in school being told I wasn’t allowed out of class to use the toilet, yet at 16 I can get married, have sex, join the army? That’s bonkers! I understand not encouraging them to go out with class all the time (you would get to know the usual culprits), but stopping them from using the toilet on their break just because they should of went before they went outside? That’s nuts. When you’ve got to go you’ve got to go & toilet breaks aren’t exactly scheduled 🤦🏼‍♀️

I would definitely let the school know to brief the lunchtime staff on you DD’s condition so this doesn’t become a regular thing for the poor girl ❤️

Jacksonsmusic · 13/05/2021 18:52

Surely break and lunch times are the correct times for children to be using the toilet? I would not be happy about my child being prevented from using the toilet at lunchtime even with no medical needs. Also, if your DD has had accidents after this member of staff denied her access to the toilet, why is she still not letting her go?

Snowpatrolling · 13/05/2021 18:57

Had the same issue with my dd only her issues are bowel related, when she’s got to go, she got to go, no warning!
The dinner lady did the same as yours and wouldn’t let her in so she had an accident.
All dinner lady’s after that were informed, as was every teacher and TA in the school so everyone was prepared.
Didn’t go in all guns blazing was very polite, but firm.

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BlueLovingGirl · 13/05/2021 20:19

Have emailed the school secretary (who will direct to correct staff member if needed) so will let you know when I get a reply.

I just asked if the class teacher was aware of DD having toileting accidents as there was no notes in her diary about them and said that DD had mentioned that sometimes she's not allowed to go to the toilet at lunchtime.

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BlueLovingGirl · 13/05/2021 20:19

@Jacksonsmusic

Surely break and lunch times are the correct times for children to be using the toilet? I would not be happy about my child being prevented from using the toilet at lunchtime even with no medical needs. Also, if your DD has had accidents after this member of staff denied her access to the toilet, why is she still not letting her go?
We were prevented at high school I still remember it now, not being allowed to go, i do not want that for my DD especially with her condition.
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FelicityPike · 13/05/2021 20:22

I am not unsympathetic to your DD’s predicament, but we’ve not had a “daughter is forbidden to use the toilet at school” thread for a while.
Talk to the school....absolutely. Good luck.

BlueLovingGirl · 13/05/2021 20:24

@FelicityPike

I am not unsympathetic to your DD’s predicament, but we’ve not had a “daughter is forbidden to use the toilet at school” thread for a while. Talk to the school....absolutely. Good luck.
I completely get that, and I'm not saying what DD is saying is right, it might be that due to her other issues she's misunderstanding or trying to take a friend with her or something, thats why I haven't gone in all guns blazing.
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