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Feel so guilty *[Content warning: contains discussion on suicide and underage sex/paedophilia]

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teenagewhore · 10/05/2021 18:56

Warning, contains discussion on suicide and underage sex/ pedophilia. Name changed for obvious reasons.

TLDR - man I had a relationship with when I was 14/15 (and he didn't know) has killed himself after I ruined his life and I feel awful.

From the age 14 until I was 26/27 I looked the same. Mature. I hit puberty and aged 10 years overnight. I played on this but didn't wear lots of make up/ deliberately look older, it was just nature. I was employed at a pub as a glass cleaner and became friends with some of the people working there, all over 18. The owner/ person who hired me, didn't work at the pub and had no dealings with me day to day and gave a pathetic handover to the bar manager, my age was never mentioned (if the owner even knew - it was cash in hand) and I never mentioned it. I started as the glass wash/ table clearer and moved quickly to serving behind the bar as well. I did protest that I was "just" the pot wash but never raised my age as an issue. I made friends with others working there, who I presume were all 18+, several were late 20s and they started inviting me on nights out after work, and then on my nights off. I never had issues getting in to the bars and clubs and it became a regular thing. On one of these nights out I met a friend of a friend, we'll call him Bob. Bob was gorgeous, he was kind and generous and I fancied the pants off him. I was really pleased when after a few nights out, it became apparent that he felt the same and we started dating. We dated for 18 months, I was 16 when we broke up. Bob was a great guy and we got on really well. I deliberately concealed my age. If it came up I deflected, changed the subject and occasionally, out and out lied. I knew he'd break up with me, I knew he'd have an issue and I knew he would get in trouble. He was employed in a profession (not teaching). I was introduced to his friends and his family, my age was never questioned. He already knew my pub friends but I was careful not to introduce him to my school friends as they looked their ages. They knew I was dating him. He thought I was a mature student at the local uni - a lie I told him and carefully cultivated. We went out for dinner with his friends, to their houses, we were accepted as a couple, no questions asked.

My parents were divorced and not on talking terms, I used this to my advantage and lied to them about where I was, but most of the time I was "with the other one".

I know I was stupid, I knew at the time I was playing seriously with fire.

One Saturday we were in town clothes shopping and my teacher saw me and Bob. She came over and asked for an introduction, I tried to get away and avoid the contact but she clearly thought something was amiss as she made a point of introducing herself as my teacher, from the high school where I attended as a year 11.

Bob looked at me, I hung my head in shame and Bob walked off. I called him and called him, I turned up at his house, I wrote to him (this was pre-mobiles). Begged for his forgiveness and explained in my letter that I had lied to him. School called the police and social services and Bob was arrested, but not charged. I refused to cooperate, lied and basically the police gave up, thinking it wasn't worth the bother. Bob was ostracized by friends and family, branded a pedophile and spiraled in to drink and depression. He attempted suicide and lost his job, had a breakdown. I cut all contact, left my job and eventually moved on.

I heard on the grapevine that Bob never recovered, he was a broken man and his parents and friends never forgave him.

I on the other hand moved away, went to uni, got a successful career and I am married to a lovely (older) man and have 2 children and a lovely life. On the facebook page of my home town I found out he had died. Committed suicide. He was never able to recover from the breakdown I caused. I just can't believe it. I feel awful. I know there is absolutely nothing I can do now to make this better, bring him back or undo all the hurt I caused back then and have now caused to his love ones. But I also don't know how I can move forward.

I don't know what I'm wanting from this, I just need to let it out I guess. I'm not in touch with anyone from back then anymore and I don't have anyone who would understand, though DH is trying to.

OP posts:
BowserJr · 11/05/2021 06:50

How old did you tell him you were?

Even if he did think you were aged 16-18, it's a bit creepy a 27 year old going out with someone that age don't you think?

TheOnlyLivingBoyInNewCross · 11/05/2021 07:10

@BowserJr

How old did you tell him you were?

Even if he did think you were aged 16-18, it's a bit creepy a 27 year old going out with someone that age don't you think?

She told him she was a mature student at a local uni, so I imagine she was pretending to be in her early twenties? No matter how physically mature the OP looked though, at fourteen, her behaviour and attitudes are going to be pretty immature. Hard to believe Bob didn't ever suss her out over how ever many months it was.
ChairmansReserve · 11/05/2021 07:16

She told him she was a mature student at a local uni, so I imagine she was pretending to be in her early twenties?

Yes, what a very strange and unnecessary addition that was.

DontBiteTheBoobThatFeedsYou · 11/05/2021 07:22

Teenagewhore? Really? 👎🏻

teenagewhore · 11/05/2021 10:54

@TheOnlyLivingBoyInNewCross

That poor man.

I've got no time for men who use the "but she looked sixteen" line to defend what they know is sleazy behaviour but you really carefully crafted your story, didn't you? His sense of betrayal must have been huge.

However, there's nothing you can do about it now. I guess you just have to work out how to make your peace with it and move forward.

Yeah this is how I feel about it.

I appreciate I was young and possibly couldn't fully understand the implications of what I was doing but I knew enough to never let my guard down. I deliberately kept stuff and people from him. He must have been really betrayed, yeah. I just don't know how I move past it now. If I could take it all back I would.

Maybe counseling is the way to go, I shall look in to this.

User name is a song by Hole. Nothing dodgy about it, though van totally understand why it was taken that way!

OP posts:
BelleClapper · 11/05/2021 11:15

He knew.

Maybe not that you were 14, but he knew you weren’t in your 20s.

Timestablesaretables · 11/05/2021 11:33

@Maddox33 Yes she was a child at 14 and 16... anyone under 18 is a child.

MedusasBadHairDay · 11/05/2021 11:43

@BelleClapper

He knew.

Maybe not that you were 14, but he knew you weren’t in your 20s.

This.

From your OP it sounds like you didn't stay in touch, and don't know what else happened in his life after, you can't blame yourself. You were a child, even if you tried to pretend otherwise. He was an adult. He made his choices.

ChairmansReserve · 11/05/2021 14:57

User name is a song by Hole. Nothing dodgy about it, though van totally understand why it was taken that way!

Gosh what an amazing coincidence!

teenagewhore · 11/05/2021 15:10

@ChairmansReserve

User name is a song by Hole. Nothing dodgy about it, though van totally understand why it was taken that way!

Gosh what an amazing coincidence!

It's not an amazing coincidence. I like Hole, I particularly liked Hole back then. Most of my user names are song titles. Don't most people have a theme when choosing user names or is that just me?
OP posts:
teenagewhore · 11/05/2021 15:14

@BelleClapper

He knew.

Maybe not that you were 14, but he knew you weren’t in your 20s.

Fair enough. I think as an adult I can see that, though at the time not. I was very mature but yeah, there's a huge difference between mistaking someone for older on first glance and doing it once you get to know them well.

And yeah, I don't know what else happened in his life, just the immediate fall out.

OP posts:
ChairmansReserve · 11/05/2021 15:15

I meant it was an amazing coincidence that you changed your username to that on exactly the same day as posting this thread. With so many different songs, even so many different Hole songs, you could have chosen. What are the chances, eh? Lol.

teenagewhore · 11/05/2021 15:20

@ChairmansReserve

I meant it was an amazing coincidence that you changed your username to that on exactly the same day as posting this thread. With so many different songs, even so many different Hole songs, you could have chosen. What are the chances, eh? Lol.
Go troll hunt somewhere else. Honestly, can you not see I might be upset about this situation and you are just being a twat.
OP posts:
DifficultPifcultLemonDifficult · 11/05/2021 15:23

@ChairmansReserve

I meant it was an amazing coincidence that you changed your username to that on exactly the same day as posting this thread. With so many different songs, even so many different Hole songs, you could have chosen. What are the chances, eh? Lol.
Go report to MNHQ then 🤷🏻‍♀️

If you're right then they will delete, if you're not right then you are treating someone going through a tough time like shit for your own sense of superiority.

KaleSlayer · 11/05/2021 15:27

If this is true...

I would say the chances of this man not strongly suspecting that you were not an adult are very small.

SteveArnottsCodeine · 11/05/2021 15:40

Another one saying that I doubt he thought you were as old as you said you were. I’ve worked around 14 year olds for years. I also was a 14 year old who looked older than my years.... looking older at first glance is quite different to hearing one talk for any length of time.

RunningFromInsanity · 11/05/2021 16:29

God, that poor man.

Jongleurterre · 11/05/2021 16:39

What you must accept is that guilt is an emotion which helps no one. It won’t bring him back nor will your feeling awful change anything that has happened.

Despite a troubled and unusual childhood you have gone on to normality and whilst you cannot erase your past you can let go of what happened as there were many factors and other people involved who could have stopped you at any time.

Counselling may help or you can just stop looking back at the past and let those feelings of shame, guilt and any other negativity, dissipate.

You could write a letter as if you were writing to him and as you write you may find answers flowing from you as to why you did what you did and that you never meant any ill will to him.

Read what you have written and imagine if you could go back in time, what would you tell yourself? You would want to take yourself by the hand and lead you away from that mixed up time and allow yourself to be a normal teen and mixing with people your own age.

Then come back to the future and understand that you are not that teenager anymore and your life is led in honesty and truth.

Rip the letter up and as the pieces fall into the bin let go of the o say and look forward to being in the now and making plans with your family for the future.

ChairmansReserve · 11/05/2021 17:21

@teenagewhore Out of interest, why did you at 14 pretend to be a mature student at the university rather than, say, a student?

SteveArnottsCodeine · 11/05/2021 17:51

@RunningFromInsanity

God, that poor man.
Yeah because that’s helpful to the poor OP.
TiddyTid · 11/05/2021 18:06

Hindsight is a wonderful thing.

There is nothing you can do to change things OP. Punishing yourself now achieves nothing. Accepting what you did was wrong is the first step and you obviously are.

You have children now, you can give them excellent live lessons from your experience. Focus on them and do your best. That's all you can do.

TiddyTid · 11/05/2021 18:06

Life* not live

Sooodone · 11/05/2021 18:54

You’re not responsible for what happened to him end his life spiralling. You made a mistake like so many others do, but there was no malice in it. Besides all that, he is an adult, no one made him react the way he did, and you can’t live like that, blaming yourself for others actions. He could have put it behind him, met someone else and moved on, he didn’t and that’s not your fault.

MishMashMummy · 11/05/2021 19:18

It sounds to me like you were a naive teenager with a tricky home life who made bad decisions - not an evil person who set out to ruin someone’s life. I also think there is a strong likelihood he knew you were younger than you let on. Any adult who spends time with teenagers - even mature looking teenagers - is very aware of just how in-adult they actually are. He maybe didn’t realise you were as young as 14 but I bet he knew you were a teenager, and that should have been enough to put him on the alert.

Please don’t blame yourself for his suicide. Humans are complicated and mental illness is complicated. It’s very unlikely that his life would have been perfect and hunky dory if he had never met you. It’s never that simple, and you shouldn’t carry the weight of this on your shoulders.

MishMashMummy · 11/05/2021 19:19

*un-adult not in-adult

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