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Work reporting domestic abuse

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ChatterMonkey · 30/04/2021 21:21

Not my personal situation but know someone in similar and was surprised at outcome so thought i would see if anyone knows of standard procedures or experience of similar.

If a person turns up at work with bruises, strongly expected to be due to domestic abuse, can the employer directly report to the police, against the wishes of the person? What would the police realistically do with this report if the person was not willing to cooperate or press charges in any way?

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SunIsComing · 30/04/2021 21:32

Is it a safeguarding matter? Employer has a duty of care to staff?

ChatterMonkey · 30/04/2021 21:40

Would duty of care extend this far to an adult though? If the victim is unwilling to seek help, is the employer overstepping to report? I assume that theres no admission of cause of injury, as victim isnt cooperative with any reports. So the police report would surely just be the employer saying they suspect something, the victim saying no nothing happened? Surprised that the police would do anything in this situation. If the above was how it happened, how would the police be able to proceed with an arrest?

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OppsUpsSide · 30/04/2021 21:42

The police can prosecute in domestic cases without the victims co-operation.

ChatterMonkey · 30/04/2021 21:44

But surely they would struggle without any witness to the abuse?

So if abuser is saying nothing happened, the victim is saying nothing happened but had a bruise, can the police really press charges?

Its all a but confusing, along with the possibility that the above isnt the full truth. Surprised that an arrest could be made in the above situation alone.

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OppsUpsSide · 30/04/2021 21:57

Well your post doesn’t really give much to go on so it’s impossible to say, the onus is on the police to gather evidence then it’s up to CPS whether to proceed with a ‘victimless prosecution’.
If it makes you feel any better there is a lot of lip service paid to it but generally the action taken is piss poor even when there is a statement/witnesses.

Tickledtrout · 30/04/2021 22:09

Is there a child on the house? It's a matter of child safeguarding if a child witnesses or lives with DA

ChatterMonkey · 30/04/2021 22:12

Thats what i thought about paying lipservice to this sort of report but not doing anything, so was surprised at fast action from the police. However there is the possibility that it didn't go down how ive been told so not sure how likely this version is.

Basically Jane (not real name) has gone into work on monday morning with a black eye. Workplace have strong suspicions of domestic abuse and report to the police. Which jane is unhappy about, and uncooperative with the report. Jane continues to deny any abuse being cause of bruises. However, police show up and arrest bob (not real name), who then has to go to court, and gets told he has to spend 28 days away from the home residence.

What i suspect what may have happened is jane has told her colleagues more about where the bruise came from, so employers have an admission of cause from jane, which is passed to police who can then proceed from that. But jane is saying now that she didnt say anything to colleagues so bob doesnt find out thats shes said anything.

Is the first scenario reasonable to have happened or is it more likely the second?

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boredinthouse · 30/04/2021 22:14

He has to spend 28 days away from home? That's amazing if things have changed since I was attacked and reported my ex. He admitted it and told me I had to let him back in and he was on the tenancy.

boredinthouse · 30/04/2021 22:15

Sorry, the police told me I had to let him back in as he was on the tenancy.

Suzi888 · 30/04/2021 22:15

Anyone can report suspected abuse. An employee has a duty of care, employees and colleagues can report abuse too.

NeverDropYourMoonCup · 30/04/2021 22:15

Doesn't really matter either way. Either she didn't say anything or she did and needs to deny it out of fear.

The important thing is that the report, however it came about, was acted upon.

ChatterMonkey · 30/04/2021 22:18

Oh yes i agree it needed to be acted on, my surprise isnt bad surprise, more like impressed surprise at how fast it was acted on on what seems lile very little to no evidence.

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Wigglegiggle0520 · 30/04/2021 22:22

Bob may have made some admissions in interview.
It sounds like he may have been given a domestic violence protection order.

HenryHooverIII · 30/04/2021 22:23

If he has to spend 28 days away from the house, the court will have granted a Domestic violence prevention order. If you look it up, they are usually issued by the court when there isn't enough evidence to charge someone.

Goingtogetflamed · 30/04/2021 22:26

OP are you Bob? Sounds like you’re looking for confirmation that Jane said something.

I have reported but in the meantime, Can we all be careful what we post?

Goingtogetflamed · 30/04/2021 22:30

I searched the OP and they look like they’ve made one other comment on one other thread. Interestingly, the post is to give driving advice, specifically that other people drive better so pull over and let them past Hmm

ChatterMonkey · 30/04/2021 22:30

Sorry can see how it comes across as that, i am definitely not bob, im happy that Jane has potentially said something as this is somewhat an ongoing issue, but difficult to help someone who doesnt want to be helped.

Domestic violence prevention order sounds likely to be what has been issued, didnt really have much info on what happened in court.

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MissMaple82 · 30/04/2021 22:32

They dint need the victim to cooperate any more if there's a genuine concern. I begged police not to fo anything, said it was nothing but they explained they have a duty of care. Well done to the employer I say because this woman will now get a huge amount of help

ChatterMonkey · 30/04/2021 22:32

Ive name changed for this thread, and while in this username, posted on another thread. (Dont think its too eye rolling to say on a thread that its safer to let an agressive driver past on a country road?)

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ChatterMonkey · 30/04/2021 22:34

I completely agree that its a good thing that employer has acted on this, whether it was admitted or just acting on bruises. Just impressed and surprised at how effectively the police have acted on the report. Genuinely thought something like this would get 'put on file' and forgotten about by them.

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Goingtogetflamed · 30/04/2021 22:35

Why does it matter to you whether Jane said anything? What has it got to do with you?

ChatterMonkey · 30/04/2021 22:38

It matters in terms of how it pans out from here. If jane in some way sooke to and admitted abuse, then its a good sign that she may be on the path to acting on the situation shes in. If the report was done completely against her will then after 28 days, nothing is likely to change. Im hopeful that its the former.

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Goingtogetflamed · 30/04/2021 22:43

If this is true and she wants to talk to you, she will. If she doesn’t then you can be as hopeful as you like but it’s nothing to do with you. No one here can answer your question.

I still think you’re Bob.

IWentAwayIStayedAway · 01/05/2021 07:06

Does jane work with children or have a child?

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