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rainbowthoughts · 25/04/2021 10:36

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/news.stv.tv/east-central/mum-who-killed-son-three-freed-after-nearly-seven-years-in-jail%3ftop&amp

How? How can the society we live in allow someone like this to walk the streets again?

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rainbowthoughts · 25/04/2021 10:36

Sorry the link doesn't work..

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AC12theletterofthelaw · 25/04/2021 10:37

I am shocked she has been released so soon. Just to live her life.

I am not far from where his body was found. It’s an awful awful story. That poor little boy.

rainbowthoughts · 25/04/2021 10:38

It's heartbreaking, and she just gets to carry on Sad

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AC12theletterofthelaw · 25/04/2021 10:38

The link worked fine for me.

rainbowthoughts · 25/04/2021 10:39

Oh, that's good. I asked MN to remove it but if it's working that's ok!!

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FrenchFancie · 25/04/2021 10:52

I assume it’s in line with sentencing guidelines. Maybe she had a mental
Illness or other mitigating factors? Unless we sat through the trial we can’t know for certain.
I assume she feels guilty about what she did and has to live with that for the rest of her life, so she’s hardly just ‘carrying on as normal’.

From the outside looking in her release looks bad but i assume there’s more going on than was published in the paper, so I reserve judgement

Awwlookatmybabyspider · 25/04/2021 10:54

Sickening. Is that all the parole board think that beautiful little boys life is worth. People do longer for drugs offences.

rainbowthoughts · 25/04/2021 10:57

I assume it’s in line with sentencing guidelines.

Quite. It's those same guidelines I take issue with.

Maybe she had a mental
Illness or other mitigating factors?

I don't think there are any mitigating factors for such a crime.

Unless we sat through the trial we can’t know for certain.

I assume she feels guilty about what she did

So you are allowed to assume she feels guilty but I am not allowed to suggest this is a hideous crime deserving of much more punishment?

and has to live with that for the rest of her life, so she’s hardly just ‘carrying on as normal’.

I'm not sure why you have quoted 'carrying on as normal' - I never said that.

From the outside looking in her release looks bad but i assume there’s more going on than was published in the paper, so I reserve judgement

You didn't reserve judgment though. You assumed her feeling of guilt.

I don't think there is anything wrong with people making judgements on those who murder others.

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AC12theletterofthelaw · 25/04/2021 11:00

@FrenchFancie

I assume it’s in line with sentencing guidelines. Maybe she had a mental Illness or other mitigating factors? Unless we sat through the trial we can’t know for certain. I assume she feels guilty about what she did and has to live with that for the rest of her life, so she’s hardly just ‘carrying on as normal’.

From the outside looking in her release looks bad but i assume there’s more going on than was published in the paper, so I reserve judgement

Your post makes her sound like a shop lifter.

She battered her son to death. Put him in a suit case. Went 25 miles from home and buried the suitcase in the woods. Then she reported him as missing sparking a huge search for him.

TheYearOfSmallThings · 25/04/2021 11:00

Much too soon. Especially since she is still of an age to have further children, and another few years in prison would make this much less likely.

Chatanooga1 · 25/04/2021 11:21

I remember this because it was deemed he was missing for a few days and all the sympathy lay with the mother as everyone hopes he would be found safe and well.

It was her deviousness in trying to cover up his murder that struck me at the time.

I do not think that she served enough time as punishment for the most wicked of crimes and justice has not been fully served.

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Chatanooga1 · 25/04/2021 11:26

I’m also annoyed to find out that when she was in prison she actually wasn’t in prison!

www.thescottishsun.co.uk/news/3595554/mikaeel-kular-child-killer-rosdeep-adekoya-out-released-prison-corntonvale-next-year/

user113424742258631134 · 25/04/2021 11:28

She appears to have been convicted of culpable homicide not murder. Did you take issue with that at the time? Are your views on diminished responsibility informed by anything other than a lust for vengeance?

Anybody can raise concerns about unduly lenient sentences at the time of sentencing. Did you?

Or do you just prefer to bay for blood many years after the event?

user113424742258631134 · 25/04/2021 11:31

Passing sentence, judge Lord Glennie said he accepted that Adekoya’s remorse was “genuine and heartfelt”.

rainbowthoughts · 25/04/2021 11:41

She appears to have been convicted of culpable homicide not murder. Did you take issue with that at the time? Are your views on diminished responsibility informed by anything other than a lust for vengeance?

Anybody can raise concerns about unduly lenient sentences at the time of sentencing. Did you?

Or do you just prefer to bay for blood many years after the event?

Bloody hell. It's a fucking internet chat forum. I didn't realise in order to pass comment on something we needed to have raised it at the original point in time and complain to the courts first Hmm

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ChateauMargaux · 25/04/2021 12:33

How does it compare to the time served by others convicted of culpable homicide?

'At present an offender sentenced to 4 years or more will be considered by the Parole Board for Scotland for release on licence after serving one half of their sentence. Being considered for release then or later does not mean it will happen automatically. But the offender will be released on licence after serving two-thirds of their sentence.'

So it looks like this is usual for this sentence.

It is interesting that 90% of people convinced of CH in Scotland are male but more media exposure is given to the 10% of perpetrators that are female.

UCOinanOCG · 25/04/2021 12:54

Things is she will not be deemed a risk to the public and she will never have care of her remaining children or any future children. So, yes what she did was horrific, but her release is in line wi sentencing guidelines and she will be subject to a great deal of monitoring when she is out. What good will keeping her in prison indefinitely do?

Chatanooga1 · 25/04/2021 13:01

What do people feel about her actions after killing her son?

Pretending he had gone missing/was abducted and creating fear in the community that a predator was at large and the cost of police hunt involving many man hours?

Was that not factored in the punishment? Should there have been a separate charge for this?

Not just in this case but in other cases as well where search and rescue teams are deployed.

RavingAnnie · 25/04/2021 17:59

"Maybe she had a mental
Illness or other mitigating factors?

I don't think there are any mitigating factors for such a crime. "

Really? Not one? Not even if someone was psychotic (so mentally unwell that you are unaware of right from wrong).

rainbowthoughts · 25/04/2021 18:09

@RavingAnnie

"Maybe she had a mental Illness or other mitigating factors?

I don't think there are any mitigating factors for such a crime. "

Really? Not one? Not even if someone was psychotic (so mentally unwell that you are unaware of right from wrong).

I think I phrased that reply badly earlier. Driven by the idea that mitigating circumstances mean an early release is acceptable I suppose. Imo the fact that someone could be psychotic and kill their own child is more of a reason not to have them in society.

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