If Victorian, Georgian, Edwardian and Elizabethan....

[PraiseBee]

relate to something during the reign of Q Victoria, K George, K Edward and Q Elizabeth. How do you write Charles, William, Charlotte into an 'ian' or 'an'?

Charles I reign generally referred to as Carolingian

James I/VI as Jacobean

Charles II's reign was the Restoration

Honey I was thinking along the lines that it is a royal name that doesn't 'ian' very well. There has been a Queen Charlotte

They're all their Latin names, it's just that's only really obvious with James (Jacobus) and Charles (Carolus), and I guess also Mary (Maria, so Marian). But I've never seen the Latin version of William (Gulielmus) used in that way, to form an adjective.

@PraiseBee

Honey I was thinking along the lines that it is a royal name that doesn't 'ian' very well. There has been a Queen Charlotte

Yes but Charlotte of Mecklenburg-Strelitz was ‘just’ Queen Consort so she was a Georgian, didn’t warrant her own named era

Surely he’s too well known to not use Charles though? It would just be really odd. I could sort of get it if he was 20 but everyone would just call him Charles anyway.

There's no guarantee that Charles (or the others) will use their first name as their regnal name. Iirc Victoria was called Alexandrina, Ed 8th was David and George 6th was Albert. Maybe he'll go for something else? Like Kevin. Then we'll have a Kevinian era.

People always say this but it’s not really true that there’s a tradition of British monarch choosing different regnal names. Victoria’s first name was Alexandrina but she never used it, she’d been Victoria all her life. Edward VIII’s first name was Edward. He was known as David (one of his middle names) in the family but there was never the intention he would use this as his regnal name. George VI did change his name but that was because his given name - Albert - wasn’t a traditional name for a British monarch and was also a bit too German (not popular just before the war). Because he was the second son and not expected to inherit, he wasn’t given a name considered suitable/traditional for a British king. Charles was born as the eldest son of the heir to the throne with the expectation that he would become king, and was named accordingly. I’m pretty sure no British monarch has ever changed their name on becoming monarch under those circumstances.

@Hardbackwriter

They're all their Latin names, it's just that's only really obvious with James (Jacobus) and Charles (Carolus), and I guess also Mary (Maria, so Marian). But I've never seen the Latin version of William (Gulielmus) used in that way, to form an adjective.

‘Williamite’ is used of the wars in Ireland between followers of the deposed James and William of Orange, which are generally called the Williamite Wars. But the term is used of his supporters rather than his reign (with Mary, which makes it awkward).

@Honeybobbin

Charlotte isn't going to be Queen though...

Whist it is more likely that Charlotte won't be queen, it is not impossible. She follows George in the order of succession and will only be pushed into a lower place by any children George would have.

If George were to abdicate or should die before her without having children, Charlotte would become Queen.

Before her uncle's abdication, Elizabeth was not expected to become queen. She was elder daughter of the monarch's second son, ie the same place as Princess Beatrice when she was born, and further away from the line of succession than Charlotte, who is a descendant of the monarch's eldest son.

Interesting we don't have a Henrian/Henryean?! era.

In my History A level days we referred to the Henrician period.

Victoria’s first name was Alexandrina but she never used it, she’d been Victoria all her life

Her mother called her Drina and she presumably answered to it.

@Cheekyweegobshite

There's no guarantee that Charles (or the others) will use their first name as their regnal name. Iirc Victoria was called Alexandrina, Ed 8th was David and George 6th was Albert. Maybe he'll go for something else? Like Kevin. Then we'll have a Kevinian era.

Edward was actually Edward VIII's first name; though he was known to his family as David, that was his last name - he was Edward Albert Christian George Andrew Patrick David, so he had a lot to choose from if he'd wanted to use a different regnal name.

@Lockdownennui

There's no guarantee that Charles (or the others) will use their first name as their regnal name. Iirc Victoria was called Alexandrina, Ed 8th was David and George 6th was Albert. Maybe he'll go for something else? Like Kevin. Then we'll have a Kevinian era.

People always say this but it’s not really true that there’s a tradition of British monarch choosing different regnal names. Victoria’s first name was Alexandrina but she never used it, she’d been Victoria all her life. Edward VIII’s first name was Edward. He was known as David (one of his middle names) in the family but there was never the intention he would use this as his regnal name. George VI did change his name but that was because his given name - Albert - wasn’t a traditional name for a British monarch and was also a bit too German (not popular just before the war). Because he was the second son and not expected to inherit, he wasn’t given a name considered suitable/traditional for a British king. Charles was born as the eldest son of the heir to the throne with the expectation that he would become king, and was named accordingly. I’m pretty sure no British monarch has ever changed their name on becoming monarch under those circumstances.

Victoria's eldest son Albert Edward was known as Bertie and Victoria intended him to be King Albert, but he chose to be Edward VII instead.

@Nith how do you pronounce Henrician? Is it Henreeshan or Henrickian?

Dentons - yes I was aware she was Queen consort, just meant that it's a name used by royals But I see the confusion. I'll read up about her today. And Queen Eleanor.
Hard - ahhh Latin, of course. It always goes back to Latin.

[quote ScepticalBandicoot]@Nith how do you pronounce Henrician? Is it Henreeshan or Henrickian?[/quote]
I'd guess the first

What a lovely example of a chair produced in the Windsor era'

The reality of this will be IKEA shite though

Ive often wondered about how our era will be viewed in the future. Architecture wise, I think we'll be an embarrassment that's glossed over!
Who's going to look back on some of the concrete monstrosities with any sort of reverence

I've heard the second Elizabethan era used on reports since the death of Prince Philip.

Henrician in our sixth form history class was pronounced Henrissian, but don't know if that was correct.

[quote ScepticalBandicoot]@Nith how do you pronounce Henrician? Is it Henreeshan or Henrickian?[/quote]
According to my history teacher, Henrishan. Emphasis on the second syllable.

Surely he wouldn't suddenly style himself George when he has been Charles for 70+ years and also his grandson in line to the throne too is called George. That'd be nuts.

I don't think Charles will be on the throne long enough to have a whole era named after him, so likely it will be linked in with William (in the same way all the 4 Georges are lmassed together). Possibly linked to an art movement or science or even 'post-covid era' if it and the implications hang around long enough.

We are, I believe, 'modern Elizabethans' or 'second Elizabethan era' or something.

The name changing thing for the new monarch has always seemed odd. Mind you, it always irritates me how Kate became Katherine as soon as she married William! He always refers to her as Katherine now.

William = Wilhelmine I think

Andrew Marr has written a book called Elizabethans about the current Elizabethan era. I've not read it

@LilacSorbet

There were Tudors and Stuarts and so on, so perhaps just Windsors?

'What a lovely example of a chair produced in the Windsor era'
'The Windsors reintroduced jousting'

"Reintroduced jousting"