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Are you part-time? Do you get any bank holidays in lieu?

22 replies

Pinchoftums · 01/04/2021 09:57

I work part-time but only work on Tuesdays, Wednesdays and Thursdays. I've realised I'm missing out on about 5 days (pro rata) of bank holidays because I don't work Mondays and Fridays. I asked my manager about this and he said it's something they would consider adding to my leave but would want examples of other organisations how they handle it. does anybody work for a nice organisation that lets them take the time off at a different day? I know there's no statutory obligation for them to do it but they are really nice business and would consider it if reasonable. Thanks

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TigerBeetle · 01/04/2021 09:59

I work part time (0.7 FTE) and get a pro rata allowance for my bank holidays. In other words, I get the same amount of annual leave plus bank holiday, regardless of which are my working days.

PaquitaVariation · 01/04/2021 10:01

Yes, they’re supposed to be pro rata for part timers. I work for local government.

InMySpareTime · 01/04/2021 10:03

I used to work Mondays and Fridays, and my jobshare (Tu,W, Th) got a lot more annual leave than me!
Bank Holidays were pro rata, so I had all Bank Holidays on my work days (except the odd fixed one like Christmas or New Year).
One year I only had 3 days Annual leave choice and my Jobshare had 20, but that was extreme.
What was more galling was that I worked a lot of extra days midweek as overtime but didn't get any leave for those or any extra overtime rate.

megletthesecond · 01/04/2021 10:06

Same as you and yes I do.

TomHardyAndMe · 01/04/2021 10:07

You can’t be disadvantaged for being part time - it’s specifically covered by employment law.

You should get a pro-rata entitlement for the bank holidays added to your leave entitlement.

Pinchoftums · 01/04/2021 10:08

Thank you all! I feel I can now go with a positive stance. If any of you wouldn't mind telling me the organisation you work for so I can use it as an example to make the case that would be most appreciated.

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dementedpixie · 01/04/2021 10:12

By law you should get 5.6 weeks worth of holidays per year (say you work 3 days a weeks; you'd get 5.6 x 3 = 16.8 days per year). Bank Holidays can be included within that figure or be as well as that.
What do full time staff get and how many days have you been given?

TomHardyAndMe · 01/04/2021 10:12

It doesn’t matter who people work for - this is a legal requirement.

citrushr.com/blog/leave-absence/bank-holiday-entitlement/

dementedpixie · 01/04/2021 10:13

You dont need a case, they just need to give you the number of days holiday you are entitled to

TuckMyWin · 01/04/2021 10:15

Yes, you’re supposed to get pro rated bank holidays, and they are supposed to be in lieu if they fall on your days off. It also works the other way, so depending on what days you worked if you were taking all bank holidays you might end up ‘owing’ the company. This wouldn’t affect you with the days you work though. My company uses a third party system that calculates it precisely, so my A/L entitlement is actually in hours!

dementedpixie · 01/04/2021 10:20

You need to tell us the full time holiday entitlement and the number of days holiday you have been given.

You should get â…— of 20 days (12) plus â…— of the 8 bank holidays days (4.8) which gives 16.8 days which can be rounded up but not down.

This is the legal minimum so you don't need to know what other businesses are doing as its what you're already entitled to by law

Disneyblue · 01/04/2021 10:26

Does anyone know how this works for teachers? It's always felt a bit unfair that my job share who works Mon-Wed gets Bank Holidays yet I'm off on those anyway. I mean it doesn't bother me hugely as there aren't many, but still

MeanderingGently · 01/04/2021 10:29

Nope, no bank holidays in lieu.
I work Wednesdays, Thursdays, Fridays. I am support staff in a private school, I have no bank holidays as it isn't my day to be in. We do, however, have school holidays off. And all our contracts state that where the working week includes a bank holiday, the full time staff are expected to work through it if it's a school day, that's normal for private boarding education. As my own hours don't include Mondays it doesn't apply to me, I am only paid for the hours I work. It's a normal contract for private schools, I have worked in a number of them over the years....

TomHardyAndMe · 01/04/2021 10:50

@Disneyblue

Does anyone know how this works for teachers? It's always felt a bit unfair that my job share who works Mon-Wed gets Bank Holidays yet I'm off on those anyway. I mean it doesn't bother me hugely as there aren't many, but still
Teachers are paid a flat rate for 195 (or a proportion) teaching days. They don’t get bank holidays or holidays for that matter.
AltiC · 01/04/2021 11:15

NHS always do pro rata BH. I work 0.8 wte Tues-Fri and get 0.8x(33 + 8) days, 33 days annual leave + 8 BH. As BH fall more on Mondays I definitely 'win' here! It doesn't always feel fair, compared to p/t colleagues who work different days and get less time off.

dementedpixie · 01/04/2021 11:18

Part time staff working mondays will get the same proportion of holidays but will have less choice as to when to take them as they will have to use some of their entitlement to cover the bank holidays. They have the same holidays but less choice as to when to take them

Vanillaradio · 01/04/2021 11:20

I get them pro rata. I work 3 days a week so entitled to 0.6 of bank holidays. What this means in practice is I get them all off work but lose a few hours flexible leave or annual leave at the end of the year to pay for them as there are more bank Holidays than my entitlement covers. Any that fall on my nwd don't count so I pay back fewer hours if eg Christmas day and Boxing Day fall on a nwd. Public sector.

pennylane83 · 01/04/2021 11:25

Go on the gov.uk annual leave entitlement calculator. You input how many days a week you work, or hours, and it will give you your pro-rata entitlement of the statutory 28 days leave (20 days plus 8 Bank Holidays) a company must give you.

BarbaraofSeville · 01/04/2021 11:25

Are there still people so useless at running companies that they can't get this right? It's not hard.

You work out what leave your full timers are entitled to, in terms of hours per year.

For part timers, you work out the proportion, based on the fraction of full time hours they do.

For a part timer to take one of their normal working days off, whether as AL or BH it costs them the appropriate number of hours off their leave allowance.

The Government has even produced a handy calculator.

www.gov.uk/calculate-your-holiday-entitlement

wendz86 · 01/04/2021 11:26

I work Mon - Thurs so am entitled to 0.8% of bank holidays. Usually works out around 7 and there are usually only one or 2 on fridays.
If there are more bank holidays on a Friday in a year i might end up with an extra 0.5 or 1 day holiday.

wendz86 · 01/04/2021 11:27

80% not 0.8%

CuthbertDibbleandGrubb · 01/04/2021 11:32

Yes there is some formula that takes account of this. Slightly less complicated than the Duckworth-Lewis method, but seems fair given the number of days leave I get each year.

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