Has anyone else noticed the shockingly bad paid positions at the moment?

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Just that really.

This time last year (minus two weeks) off the cuff I applied to a similar role at a local charity. They were offering 30K and the interview was ‘postponed’ and never rescheduled.

I’m now looking at the similar roles, more responsibility and they’re between 19-23K.

I got paid more coming straight out of uni.

Is it just me, or is anyone else finding it the same?

They don’t have the money do they?! No fund raisers this year. Shops closed etc. Many charities are on their uppers. It’s obviously not a good situation for employees or charity recipients. I guess the charity is prioritising it’s recipients and work.

Yes, I work for a charity, in the advice sector and I am looking for a new job just now. Some of the pay scales are woeful and seem to be much worse than usual. I understand re. COVID and funding but it's frustrating.

I've noticed this in my industry (not charity, construction related ). Job thats usually 25k to 30k is being advertised at 18k . Hopefully this is poor example but the apparent reasoning is "loads of experienced people are desperate for a job so lower the wages because of the demand ". (Not my words )

Yes, similar to a pp, I also work for a charity in the advice sector and the wages are shockingly low. I'm looking for a new job but there isn't much out there, it's all very low paid jobs and short fixed term contracts

Same in hospitality. Mid management job advertised last year at 25k, now for 18k.

I was thinking this too, the minimum wage has gone up so people in jobs like retail are earning more, the gap between retail jobs and admin jobs has really narrowed. When I left uni, I got an admin job and that paid 17k. This was back in 2005!

Now I am seeing admin jobs around here being advertised on the 17-20k mark. 16 years later.

I've noticed the same while looking for QA/audit roles. Same company, same role advertised at 19-23k DOE this week when it was advertised at 28-30k DOE 15 months ago.

I notice the staff at my work are getting older (office/call centre)...before I went on maternity leave it was full of early 20s types, now there are lots of older people.

Yup. And the 22-25k roles that were entry level now require a degree.

I’m in the civil service and the pay for my grade has gone up around 5k over 10 years. But jobs at my grade being advertised externally in other departments are paying around 3-5k less!

I work in a charity. Our roles remain the same, actually slightly higher as we benchmarked recently,

There are also many charity roles advertised for volunteers which would formerly be paid, although this has been the case increasingly over past years due to funding constraints.

yes, seeing it in my industry too. so much supply of labour now so they will get applications for lower wages.

It’s absolutely shit! I was looking this time last year and applying for roles around £30k for an experienced manager, the same skill set now seems to be in the region of £23k, just as the cost of living creeps ever higher thanks to Brexit

Yes, definitely. I keep seeing (experience required) jobs for £17k-£19k, I assume they're pro rata part time but they're not! How are people going to afford to live if the cost of housing and living is going up but wages are going down?

I think it depends on the company to be honest. I work for a charity that has grown exponentially over the last 12 months, but I can absolutely understand that others have suffered and need to make cut backs

It’s also what happens when millions are redundant. In some sectors there will be plenty looking for jobs. No wonder nursing is now vastly over subscribed! Better starting salaries, pay progression, decent pension and no threat of redundancy! Even with a “pay cut” others are significantly worse off. Public sector jobs are mostly holding their pay.

It's been like this for ages & getting worse. Jobs that paid 50-60k in the mid 00s still pay that today.

Our local pub is quite large and does food as well. They have always employed bar and waiting staff on NMW but I noticed a couple of days ago that they are now advertising some vacancies for when they re-open. Not regular staff as before, but apprentices instead. Presumably so they can pay far less.

There was a survey of graduate starting salaries recently. Stagnant for 10 years in graduate level careers. A few have gone up but most have not.

I got paid 16k for office admin / PA role -
Not London - a year out of uni...... 1998!

Tablegs: Same in the US. Except the food service industry is cutting positions from "full-time" to "part-time and trainee" positions. Where my son works, the "Trainee" position was one month and then person was either promoted to server or let go. After Covid, the "trainee" position is now three months and then there is an "advanced trainee" position for another six to nine months. This means non- minimum wage for at least the first nine months of employment.

It's everywhere, and it's disgusting.
They know people are desperate and they will be able to hire people for that money.

There is even worse coming with "Fire and rehire". Our local Council is looking into letting all their manual workers go and then hiring them or new people back at much lower wages.

Or "apprenticeships" at £2 an hour doing the same job that someone at or above MW was doing.
It's a disgrace.