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I need some help with maths (for me) please

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lucysmam · 18/03/2021 15:50

I'm due a refund for a trip my Guides were meant to go on.

I've been offered £878.40 in total.

11 people paid £144, and 1 paid £96 (it's not a full refund but I'm running out of fight for more tbh).

Can someone help me work out how much the 11 who paid £144 should have out of the £878, and how much the one who paid £96 should have, please?

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lucysmam · 18/03/2021 16:47

Thanks Chloe, that made it easier to understand!

Honey I can't take the same girls as several have left due to Covid & am not guaranteed to be able to sell on their places.

It's been a headache from the start tbh & rescheduled twice (might actually be three times). I'd prefer more of the total back but it seems unlikely to happen.

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Bluntness100 · 18/03/2021 16:47

Agre as the 50 is non refundable remove it.

Then the percentage back of what people paid.

SoupDragon · 18/03/2021 16:50

@dementedpixie

I do know how you got to £2088 in total
I can't work that out either

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BernadetteRostankowskiWolowitz · 18/03/2021 16:50

@Newkitty

Why does it matter if the money was a deposit or not? I agree with calaneura on the percentages.

You could also say that everyone gets 52.2% of their non deposit money back (£49 for those who paid in full, £24 for the one who didn’t). Then you split the rest equally among all 12, which is £26.40 each

So 11 people get 75.40 and 1 gets 50.40 (approx). But that works out as pretty much the same anyway!

Because deposits are non refundable.

Those who overpaid are due a portion of their overpayment back. Its rude to reduce there share down because someone who has a non refundable deposit is going to be bung a few quid.

The only thing the OP should consider is the overpayments.

BernadetteRostankowskiWolowitz · 18/03/2021 16:50

their share.

ChloeCrocodile · 18/03/2021 16:51

£2088 is the total paid between 14.

14 deposits of £50.

11 people paid in full £144
1 person wasn't joining us for as long so paid £96 total (inc. the £50 deposit).

This doesn't add up.
11 x £144 = £1585
1 x £94 = £94
3 x 50 = £150
Adding those:
£1585 + £94 + £150 = £1828

If you are seeing £2088 as the total paid, where did the extra £259 come from? Was it paid by the club to the tour operator before the money was received from parents?

BernadetteRostankowskiWolowitz · 18/03/2021 16:54

2088 is the total if 14 and a half people pay in full. So OP either you didnt pay then 2088 or the people who paid in gave you more than you have recorded.

Extremelyilluminated · 18/03/2021 16:56

11 people get 75.20
And the one gets
48.30
So that it’s all divided
by 12
The one who only paid 66% gets 66% of 878.40/12
Then the remaining 44% of their bit is split between everyone else.
Ish .
Or something 🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯

Mumdiva99 · 18/03/2021 16:58

Having been through this with school. Claim on your holiday insurance for the deposits if they are lost because if the original lockdown (Although if it's a decent center they should refund you. Is it a Kingswood by any chance?)

Extremelyilluminated · 18/03/2021 16:59

Also I lost a few quid there 🤔

dementedpixie · 18/03/2021 16:59

I took the £50 off each so you have ;
11 x £94
1 × £46

You've received around 81.3% of the refundable amount back so;

£94 becomes £76.45 (×11 = 840.95)
£46 becomes £37.45 (rounding to nearest 5p)
Totalling: £878.40

SingToTheSky · 18/03/2021 17:10

@ChloeCrocodile

You have -11 people who paid £94 plus non-refundable deposit -1 person paid £44 above the non-refundable deposit -3 people only paid the non-refundable deposit.

That means (excluding the deposit) the total paid was £1078.

The refund you've got (£878.40) is actually 81% of the refundable portion of the trip. So I'd give each person 81% of refundable portion they paid.
11 people get £76.60
1 person gets £35.85

So the total money you return is £878.45. Do you have petty cash to make up the extra 5p?

With the deposit info, I like this solution best!
2bazookas · 18/03/2021 17:16

To work out 40%

Divide the amount by 10 ; that number is 10%
Multiply that number by 4

40 % is four times 10%.

Bluntness100 · 18/03/2021 17:16

I think thr fact the 2088 is wrong, makes all other calculations irrelevant.

Op you need to understand where the other 260 quid came from. You’ve only detailed 1828 of it. Which means all answers are wrong.

lucysmam · 18/03/2021 17:19

I've definitely paid £2088, screenshot attached.

Mumdiva yep Kingswood. Our DC says that's a good amount to be getting; I was hoping for a hand to try for more.

I need some help with maths (for me) please
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lucysmam · 18/03/2021 17:23

I've overpaid.

2088 - 96 = 1992

1992 ÷ 144 = 13.83

I've over paid by 0.83 people I think!

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merryhouse · 18/03/2021 18:58

So what was the deposit? £50? Paid by 14 people?

two people paid deposit plus 0
one person paid deposit plus 46 (extra £46)
11 people paid deposit plus 94 (extra 940+94 = £1034)

total paid £1080 plus non-refundable deposit

Eleven people each paid (94/1080) of this total, one paid (46/1080) of this total, two paid nothing of this total.

So the eleven should each get (94/1080)x878.40, and the one should get (46/1080)x878.40.

Eleven people get £76.45 and one gets £37.41 (and you put 4p in the subs tin).

If the numbers aren't as I've assumed, go through the above working and do the same thing with the correct figures.

And remind everyone that they agreed the initial payment was non-refundable!

merryhouse · 18/03/2021 19:11

Sorry, I don't know why I didn't get the last few posts Grin

The total amount paid could be said to be irrelevant (to the calculation: obviously it's not irrelevant to those who paid it!). The company have told you how much you paid and how much their T&C say they can keep back, and are giving you the remainder. You told the group their initial payment was non-refundable so none of them is getting that back. Within that structure you can only work with what you've got.

Palavah · 18/03/2021 19:15

@ChloeCrocodile

You have -11 people who paid £94 plus non-refundable deposit -1 person paid £44 above the non-refundable deposit -3 people only paid the non-refundable deposit.

That means (excluding the deposit) the total paid was £1078.

The refund you've got (£878.40) is actually 81% of the refundable portion of the trip. So I'd give each person 81% of refundable portion they paid.
11 people get £76.60
1 person gets £35.85

So the total money you return is £878.45. Do you have petty cash to make up the extra 5p?

This.
Mumdiva99 · 19/03/2021 21:19

@lucysmam

I've definitely paid £2088, screenshot attached.

Mumdiva yep Kingswood. Our DC says that's a good amount to be getting; I was hoping for a hand to try for more.

So as a school governor I can tell you we claimed on the insurance and recovered the deposit. Other schools pushed Kingswood and got the deposit returned from them. Good luck.
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