Gender Critical Topics of Discussion

[AutumnMcJavabean]

Greetings,

My name is... er, AutumnMcJavabean. Sorry to bother you all, I've been reading articles and big threads for the past year or so, and I'm working on a book on the topic of transgenderism, a term I use to denote trans topics. I am trans myself, but I'm afraid I have to disagree with some of the claims my "people" make and argue against them. I want to address or present the Gender Critical Movement arguments properly.

I hope this is not breaking any rules; if so, let me know.

What are key issues against the female and mother community? Sports? Bathrooms?

Thank you!

Look for the break it down for me thread - it's all laid out fairly succinctly

Or just start browsing!

Try reading some threads on feminism chat.

There's one called break it down for me but I don't have a link sorry.

The thread about the current court case about trans women in female prisons is current and might help.

If you’ve been reading articles on this topic for a year, surely you have some idea what the important issues might be?

Gender and sex are not the same thing.

Females need and should have sex based rights and protections in law. Such as maternity laws. Sex segregated prisons, refuges, hospital wards, and other spaces where needed. Sex segregated sports. Laws to prevent us from discriminaton due to our sex.
All these should be based on our immutable biological sex.

@PurpleDaisies

If you’ve been reading articles on this topic for a year, surely you have some idea what the important issues might be?

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Not always, no. My fear of misrepresenting the GC community, even by an iota, bothers me. So, I figured why not ask?

Why don’t you tell us what YOU think the key issues are? Why are women afraid of men invading their private spaces?

Im a bit confused as to what you actually want to know tbh....

What claims dont you agree with?

Put the effort in to read the recommended threads that already exist under Feminism Chat

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/a3145470-Break-it-down-for-me

I think it would be more valuable and interesting to hear your conclusions based on your own research - rather than trying to argue for a position you're uncertain about and think you could "get wrong".

There's not a whole lot to gender critical thought beyond the starting position that "gender" is made up and damaging, and that sex-based rights are needed to protect both vulnerable women and men. Everything else logically comes from that.

Not difficult to find the op online based on their username and seems that they really do put a lot of time into trying to understand GC arguments.

My issue is, that when people consider the bathroom issue, they're looking at whether a woman is a bigot if she feels uncomfortable. As a woman who has been sexually abused and harassed, i would be deeply uncomfortable to encounter someone who i perceived as male in a female space. My mental health matters less than the person who wants to be validated by using the female toilet - but I'm the one the facilities were intended for. If i went into hospital and shared a ward with a male born person, id suffer panic attacks and probably a relapse of my ptsd. But to raise objections would make me a bigot. I don't know what the solution is, i stay out of this stuff now as it was causing me MH issues but i don't want to have to be forced into sharing spaces where i may be vulnerable with male born people.

I'm happy to live and let live but id just like some kind of sign from the powers that be that women like me matter too.

Why am I no longer a woman? Why do I have to call myself a cis-woman so that some people born male can call themselves women? Why can they not be happy being transwomen and let biological women keep that term for themselves?

I read an article recently in which the writer said they knew they could never be a woman and

Sorry, they were happy enough with that. It was so refreshing.

I agree re 'cis'. It infuriates me. Ill 'just' be a woman thanks.