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Let’s talk about childcare costs...

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SweetSouls · 21/02/2021 12:20

I’ve recently been looking at local childcare costs, to see how feasible having a baby would be. I live in outer London, which I acknowledge is expensive.

All of the local nurseries are £90-100 per day (>£100 per day if you do less than full time).

This means my childcare cost for one child will be around £2,000 per month.

I’m feeling a little frustrated by the enormity of the cost, and the minimal support which the government will provide to working parents.

If prices continue to rise above inflation, we can’t be too many years off the very, very vast majority of parents (and let’s face it, women) left in the position that they have no option but to quit their careers if they want a child.

Why is this not a more pressing topic in the press and government? I know we are a country like the idea of ‘don’t have children if you can’t afford them’ - but if this trend continues presumably no one will be able to afford to have children and contemplate a career, unless they can make it to senior management before they hit 35.

What’s a sustainable way to lower the cost? Providers already seem to struggle to make the numbers work and break even, let alone be profitable. Could the full sum become tax deductible in some way (other business expenses are!).

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LBOCS2 · 21/02/2021 18:08

[quote PotteringAlong]@Dustyhedge is right re:wraparound. The £320 is per child - after the initial drop for the 30 free hours, my childcare bill didn’t drop when they went to school.[/quote]

Same. We pay the best part of £600 for wraparound childcare in term time, and it's £220 a week per child for childminder or holiday camp. Our school usually has a cheaper breakfast and after school club, but it hasn't been operating since last March and closes at 6pm anyway which really doesn't work with a commute.

BrilliantBetty · 21/02/2021 18:52

Also in London and I was unable to go with a seemingly v nice local day nursery as it was £80 for a day. I only needed 6.5 hours so it worked out expensive, plus admin fees etc.

I went with a childminder in her home, with an assistant. Lovely house, big garden and great kids (about 6 of them). They went to local toddler groups etc before school age. It was £6.80 per hour, no admin fees but 4 weeks paid holiday on top. Worked out better for me only paying the hours I used and a more homely environment. DC left a year ago after 4 happy years.

FinallyGotAnIPhone · 21/02/2021 19:01

Costs are horrendous. Don’t ever add up how much you’ve spent so far on childcare over your life if you have three kids and they all went to nursery from 9m/ 1 yr four days a week before they started school...and then wrap around care at school 😭😭😭 ....

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Krankie · 21/02/2021 19:29

Agree with everything you’ve said OP. I’m nowhere near London so costs are lower.. but then so are salaries. Still looking at over 1k a month for full time nursery.

It’s incredibly frustrating that you’re offered no incentive or help to get back to work. I often use the “entitled to” govmt webpage to work out if I am better off working reduced hours or not at all. With universal credit, I’m better off not working, or working 1-2 days a week. Which seems crazy. I’m determined to keep my career, which means I’ll have to suck it up.. but I completely understand why others don’t go back to work.

Africa2go · 21/02/2021 19:31

I do think there needs to be a shift in expectations - if you're going to work the same hours post children as you did pre children, use you annual leave for holidays rather than to cover school holidays etc, then of course it's going to be a massive cost.

We only used to have 1 week off together in the early years, the remainder of our annual leave was taken separately as a way to try to cover school holidays so we didn't have to pay for holiday camps / clubs. Childcare for 13 or 14 weeks of school holidays is an unexpected killer when you mistakenly think the end of nursery means you'll be miles better off.

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