Brexit saved lives

[Dodie66]

Just read this by Anne Widdicombe about how Brexit enabled us to make our own decisions about the vaccines
www.lbc.co.uk/radio/presenters/andrew-pierce/brexit-has-saved-lives-says-ann-widdicombe-speaking-on-uks-vaccine-rollout/?fbclid=IwAR08BgrqI_27l-jsM9gmuEoDPZLGW0VXoax_z3Oy8gdVWRlDx1qFKBUFS_4

Wow, maybe it will go some way towards balancing the scales for all the thousands who have died thanks to Tory incompetence. Oh hang on probably not if you also add on those who have died as a result of austerity, removed DLA and all the rest.

Tories = very bloody hands.

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If politicians had taken the threat of the virus seriously this time last year instead of fighting over brexit then a lot less lives would have been lost.

If you feel that strongly about it, at least get Ann Widdecombe's name correct. It's correct in your link yet you spelled it wrong.

ODFOD. Brexit meant we had clowns in charge which so far has given us one of the highest death rates per capita on the world:

www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

And also the worst recession of any developed country.

www.ft.com/content/21abdaf0-b3b6-4cf9-93f2-007fc1b1b1c8

Hardly a triumph.

@Sciics

If politicians had taken the threat of the virus seriously this time last year instead of fighting over brexit then a lot less lives would have been lost.

Yep. If they had shit the borders this time last year and put proper tracking and quarantine in place we cpuld be living a normal life now, just with no foreign travel. No masks, social events, like many other island countries. What was the point of Brexit, I thought it was all about controlling borders etc? But not during a pandemic, clearly.

Instead BJ went off on holiday with his pregnant mistress to desperately try to divorce his wife rather than attend Cobra meetings about the virus.

It's pretty obvious which hands are covered in blood.

Ann Widdicombe is an arse, with quite a mean streak underneath her pious exterior when it comes to humanitarian and moral matters, such as being really cool with shackling pregnant women in custody and opposing equal rights for gay people.

She was happy enough to be a 'Brexit Party' MEP and to take the money involved - probably how she funds her homes.

I find her as hypocritical as Farage and deeply unsettling.

Germany has also purchased independent supplies of vaccine whilst still being part of the EU.

It is not Brexit that has enabled the UK to make these purchases, but just the fact that we are still a relatively rich nation compared to many others in the rest of the EU with good credit ratings enabling us to use the magic money tree.

Many of the other decisions that this government has made have been stupid and caused deaths to increase. We don't get to know what would have happened if the vote had been different back in 2016.

@KihoBebiluPute

Germany has also purchased independent supplies of vaccine whilst still being part of the EU.

It is not Brexit that has enabled the UK to make these purchases, but just the fact that we are still a relatively rich nation compared to many others in the rest of the EU with good credit ratings enabling us to use the magic money tree.

Many of the other decisions that this government has made have been stupid and caused deaths to increase. We don't get to know what would have happened if the vote had been different back in 2016.

Well partly. Having the cheapest vaccine in the world developed so far originating from research in partnership with one of our universities and its first large manufacturing bases set up in our country was also a factor. As were many others like convertible facilities for manufacture etc.

We've been lucky, this is nothing to do with brexit, eg:
"In a country not known for thinking strategically about industrial policy, the UK actually had an advantage. Gilbert’s Jenner Institute, for example, was founded in 1998, when Peter Mandelson was industry secretary, and funded at first by the UK drug company GlaxoSmithKline. It was critical in ensuring the UK got ahead."

We do however know with almost certainty that things would be much better for the country in the long term without Brexit. The data since 2016 shows this is the case already in 2016-2020 and it will continue.

@MagentaDoesNotExist

We do however know with almost certainty that things would be much better for the country in the long term without Brexit. The data since 2016 shows this is the case already in 2016-2020 and it will continue.

Hahaha, good one!

Honestly, what measures are you using?

Also Ann Widdecombe is a raging lunatic, so I guess it makes sense they'd give her column space at a full moon.

@inquietant have you not read a single economic study in the last 5 years??

Stopped readling at Anne Widdicombe!

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[quote MagentaDoesNotExist]@inquietant have you not read a single economic study in the last 5 years??[/quote]
Er, yes, yes I have.

Would be very willing to read the ones you have seen.

Not this shit again...

@Sciics

If politicians had taken the threat of the virus seriously this time last year instead of fighting over brexit then a lot less lives would have been lost.

This

Brexit meant we have Boris Johnson as Prime Minister instead of a competent one. More lives lost than will be saved by vaccination six weeks to two months earlier.

We have the homegrown vaccine capability because our research standing, developed through years of international partnership.

In 20 years time we'll be fucked, in that area as much as every other

@inquietant that's interesting, given that this is closely related to my profession and as far as I've seen no credible economist things Brexit will be beneficial. In fact 99.9% (i.e. all of those not nefariously connected to Brexit loons or billionnaire vulture capitalists) concluded that the harder the Brexit (and we ended up with an extremely hard, right-wing, nationalist version), the higher the resulting economic and social damage. The research incidentally was available prior to the referendum, and the subsequent evidence hasn't changed the conclusions in any respect. I'd love to know what you have been reading!!

[quote MagentaDoesNotExist]@inquietant that's interesting, given that this is closely related to my profession and as far as I've seen no credible economist things Brexit will be beneficial. In fact 99.9% (i.e. all of those not nefariously connected to Brexit loons or billionnaire vulture capitalists) concluded that the harder the Brexit (and we ended up with an extremely hard, right-wing, nationalist version), the higher the resulting economic and social damage. The research incidentally was available prior to the referendum, and the subsequent evidence hasn't changed the conclusions in any respect. I'd love to know what you have been reading!! [/quote]
Do you know what @MagentaDoesNotExist - I completely misread your earlier post - I thought you said things would be better with Brexit - which is why I was so

Well it's embarrassing I can't read but it sounds like actually we agree !

Well it's embarrassing I can't read blush but it sounds like actually we agree grin

Thats what i thought!

But i also thought ‘im not getting into the middle of THAT’

I even put this on my watch list to see if it got resolved