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Are there lots of cars in UK lakes and rivers?

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umpteennamechanges · 29/01/2021 10:40

Bear with me...

I came across a channel on YouTube which features a couple of guys who are expert divers.

They're based in the US.

They volunteer to help on missing person cases where it's believed the person may be in a car at the bottom of a body of water.

Apparently the Sheriffs in this kind of case just say that they don't have the resources to check...

So these guys go out on lakes and scan to find the vehicles.

And often there are several(!) cars in one lake. Shock

They then dive down to check each one and see whether it's the correct car.

If it is then they get it towed out.

They've solved several missing person cases where the car has been towed out and (sadly) has the body of the missing person in it.

I've been really shocked by this and can't imagine this happens in the UK but am wondering if I'm naive?

I would assume that if a missing person is thought to be in a car at the bottom of a lake the UK authorities would check and recover the vehicle and if it were too difficult to recover the vehicle they would at least recover the body?

I also don't think our lakes are full of several cars?

Anyone know?

The channel is this one: https://youtube.com/c/AdventureswithPurpose

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SmidgenofaPigeon · 29/01/2021 10:47

Ooh, what a gristly thought. Interesting...I do remember a case in Ireland I think where a man who’d been missing for twenty years was discovered in his car at the bottom of a lake. Perhaps it is more common in the US where the bodies of water are more vast and isolated?

tanguero · 29/01/2021 10:47

If you wanted to dump a body in a lake, why would you put it in a car, and tow it out to the middle of a lake ? Why wouldn't you just dump said cadaver in said lake ? As in er........the UK case of 'the lady in the lake'.

SmidgenofaPigeon · 29/01/2021 10:50

I don’t think Op meant dump bodies in a car and put them in a lake, but people who are missing and have driven into a lake deliberately or have maybe skidded off the road and ended up sinking in a lake? But there was an awful case in America where a woman drove her two children into a lake but got out of the car herself.

Givethemback · 29/01/2021 10:51

@tanguero

If you wanted to dump a body in a lake, why would you put it in a car, and tow it out to the middle of a lake ? Why wouldn't you just dump said cadaver in said lake ? As in er........the UK case of 'the lady in the lake'.
The body could be fished, it could float away and wash up somewhere, over time the body could rise up.
DinosaurDiana · 29/01/2021 10:52

I dived in Coniston , then not long after a body was found in there. Gives me the heebie-jeebies thinking about it.

BarbaraofSeville · 29/01/2021 11:03

I'm a non expert scuba diver. One of the inland lakes we train in had over 250 cars, and at least one body, removed when it was being converted from a flooded quarry to a commercial diving lake.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eccleston_Quarry

As for whether other lakes have cars in, they probably do and might not be found for a long time if no-one knows that someone has gone in there. Unless people are diving and in the right place, they could easily not be found. Although these days, if someone is reported missing, ANPR data might lead the authorities to look in nearby lakes, if there is reasonable suspicion they might have gone in there. But searching a lake can be a literal 'needle in a haystack' endeavour, if it is deep and dark.

Harmarsuperstar · 29/01/2021 11:21

250 cars?? Amazing! And the handless body of an international drug kingpin too, according to Wikipedia Shock

BarbaraofSeville · 29/01/2021 11:38

@DinosaurDiana

I dived in Coniston , then not long after a body was found in there. Gives me the heebie-jeebies thinking about it.
Finding a body underwater is my worst nightmare as a diver.

After running out of air, drowning, getting lost or trapped or attacked by vicious sealife of course.

LindaEllen · 29/01/2021 12:01

@tanguero

If you wanted to dump a body in a lake, why would you put it in a car, and tow it out to the middle of a lake ? Why wouldn't you just dump said cadaver in said lake ? As in er........the UK case of 'the lady in the lake'.
It's probably not them being dumped in the lake, rather having had an accident and driven into the lake, then drowned due to not being able to get back out of the car.
Prokupatuscrakedatus · 29/01/2021 12:07

@umpteennamechanges
You do realize that I now have to watch this channel and can't get any chores done, do you? I will blame you, if anyone asks. Grin

Fizbosshoes · 29/01/2021 12:10

There might be quite a few from Corrie, Eastenders and Top Gear? Grin

MrsMercedes · 29/01/2021 12:11

theres also an elderly retired couple who use their boat and sonar skills to detect where a body may be, then detect divers down.....all volunteers, working for free

umpteennamechanges · 29/01/2021 12:26

@tanguero

If you wanted to dump a body in a lake, why would you put it in a car, and tow it out to the middle of a lake ? Why wouldn't you just dump said cadaver in said lake ? As in er........the UK case of 'the lady in the lake'.

They're usually people who have driven into the lake themselves on purpose or an accident

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umpteennamechanges · 29/01/2021 12:27

@BarbaraofSeville

I'm a non expert scuba diver. One of the inland lakes we train in had over 250 cars, and at least one body, removed when it was being converted from a flooded quarry to a commercial diving lake.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eccleston_Quarry

As for whether other lakes have cars in, they probably do and might not be found for a long time if no-one knows that someone has gone in there. Unless people are diving and in the right place, they could easily not be found. Although these days, if someone is reported missing, ANPR data might lead the authorities to look in nearby lakes, if there is reasonable suspicion they might have gone in there. But searching a lake can be a literal 'needle in a haystack' endeavour, if it is deep and dark.

250 Shock

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SaskiaRembrandt · 29/01/2021 12:49

Not sure about cars, but I remember when I was growing up some lakes near my home town were searched for a missing person and the searchers found two other bodies, one of which appeared to have died as a result of a gangland murder.

Nordstrom · 29/01/2021 12:54

I believe Simon's Fiat Cinquecento is in there somewhere...

MrsMercedes · 29/01/2021 13:00

just watched a video showing Eccleston quarry during the draining process....you can see the cars!

MrsMercedes · 29/01/2021 13:03

off on a tangent now but ive recently been watching 'lamont at large' on youtube

he is a homeless man ...or was.... and he visits all the U.S cemeteries,showing headstones and a bit of the story behind each person. He's really respectful and just a lovely guy

QueenPawPaws · 29/01/2021 14:00

Oh god that goes through me. I love water and swimming but the thought of a car or boat or bike being underneath me.. Envy not envy
Not sure what that phobia is called!

umpteennamechanges · 29/01/2021 20:10

I went off on another tangent on YouTube watching 'magnet fishing' in UK canals.

Some poor bugger (not on YouTube, via a BBC article on magnet fishing) found the body of a man who was handcuffed.

Turned out to be a bloke who was handcuffed by the police, about to be searched for drugs and ran off and, either by accident or thinking of it was a way to evade the police, ended up in a canal in the handcuffs and drowned.

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bloodywhitecat · 29/01/2021 20:26

I used to live near the Ramsey Forty Foot, it is very easy to go off the road and into the water and there have been cars that have gone in unseen.

bloodywhitecat · 29/01/2021 20:27

It is a dangerous stretch of road.

Are there lots of cars in UK lakes and rivers?
DontGoIntoTheLongGrass · 29/01/2021 20:43

@QueenPawPaws

Oh god that goes through me. I love water and swimming but the thought of a car or boat or bike being underneath me.. Envy not envy Not sure what that phobia is called!
Submechanophobia?

I have it 😟

lljkk · 29/01/2021 20:48

never mind the cars, omg, the tyres in that ex-quarry, hundreds of them!! Human beings are disgusting.

umpteennamechanges · 29/01/2021 21:02

Just found this article... Shock

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3454287/amp/Mountain-abandoned-cars-70s-abandoned-MINE.html

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