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Cheating on Coursework

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StiffyByng1 · 21/01/2021 14:41

Someone in my world is doing all of their 18 y/o coursework. All of it. This is the work that’ll be used to assess their grades for uni. It must be happening in other families too. Do teachers suss this caper?

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AzaleaMania · 21/01/2021 14:44

Yes of course they suss it! And if found then the candidate is often not just banned from that particular subject but from an entire examination board at least.
There are also computer programs used for plagiarism now too.
It's not worth it?!

StiffyByng1 · 21/01/2021 15:07

Well the pupil is getting away with it thus far. It’s so open to abuse!

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justoverthehorizon · 21/01/2021 15:20

presumably because they want them to get into uni? will they be doing their uni work as well? If not how will they cope with the uni work?

its a cliché but you only ever cheat yourself

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BigusBumus · 21/01/2021 15:36

How would they suss it though? If the parent is doing the work an not plagiarising it (possible if they have knowledge of the subject) then the teachers will never know, surely?

BasiliskStare · 21/01/2021 15:40

Would not the teachers be able to recognise changes in tone & style ? - Depends which subject I suppose - I am sure it can happen but goodness me I would be absolutely not sleeping at night if DC has been caught "cheating"

StiffyByng1 · 21/01/2021 16:20

I don’t know how the teachers are not recognising it, the person actually doing the work is fantastically accomplished on the subject, but the teachers don’t seem to be that engaged. No way this can be an isolated incident, I bet happening all over the shop. Not having exams is obviously going to open up all kinds of abuse of the system.

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yetmorenamechanging · 21/01/2021 16:32

There is software to detect plagiarism, but I doubt every secondary secondary school teacher has access to it. So it'll be possible that pupils order essays online.

As for parents doing it, what's the point? I get helping your kids write essays and giving your knowledge to point them in the right direction. My friend had that at school, all the way through: each parent specialised in the subjects the other didn't! I had ZERO assistance ever as had a single mother who was working or tired. We are similarly intelligent I'd say and yet a gap emerged in secondary school and she ended up getting the marks needed for med school and I didn't. The constant help paid off for sure and while it wasn't fair in some ways, it was totally fair of her parents to tutor her if they could and wanted to.

Had the parents actually have done her work though, she'd have dropped out of medicine by reading week. Totally pointless.

StiffyByng1 · 21/01/2021 16:45

She’s going to uni to study a creative caper, there’ll be no big reveal.

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WitchesGlove · 21/01/2021 19:22

There are websites where you can pay someone else to do your coursework for you.

lurchersrule · 21/01/2021 19:30

You sound vey jealous. How on earth do you know that the teachers aren't that engaged? If a parent is doing all the work for them they'll come unstuck at some point, even if doing 'a creative caper', whatever that is.

BasiliskStare · 21/01/2021 19:47

Ha ha - I would love to know what a "creative caper" is also.

StiffyByng1 · 21/01/2021 20:06

@lurchersrule

You sound vey jealous. How on earth do you know that the teachers aren't that engaged? If a parent is doing all the work for them they'll come unstuck at some point, even if doing 'a creative caper', whatever that is.
Do I? I don’t feel it. Arts. I should have been less oblique in my description.
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Diverseduvet · 21/01/2021 20:09

Its sucks, but hardly affects you. I've meet many people who I wonder how they even got on a degree course, nevermind passing with good marks.

2021hastobebetter · 21/01/2021 20:14

My school has software that runs when work is submitted and picks it up. With the exams not going ahead- coursework is highly unlikely to be used. For art a level for example our aim is that year 13 completes work in school under mock conditions. But we will see.

StepOutOfLine · 21/01/2021 20:15

Schools that are using Google Classroom access the anti-plagiarism that picks up anything copied from other sources. You can activate it five times for each test. Additionally, if the test is done on a Google form/module then the teacher can see what's happening as it happens, so if someone copies and pastes a paragraph in for example.
And yes, you know when work has been done by someone other than the student. I teach a language and this week had 2 students hand in a piece of work that was native speaker level.
It serves no purpose ultimately. Sooner or later castles built on sand fall down.

TheFallenMadonna · 21/01/2021 20:16

I don't think the software would pick up a parent doing coursework.

StiffyByng1 · 21/01/2021 20:35

@Diverseduvet

Its sucks, but hardly affects you. I've meet many people who I wonder how they even got on a degree course, nevermind passing with good marks.
True!
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thewinkingprawn · 21/01/2021 20:38

I bet this goes on all the time and always has with coursework. My eldest DD is only Y6 but I find myself overdoing the input on home school assignments so I could well inadvertently do it at secondary. Parent doing it is probably ‘helping’ child whilst ending up doing the majority of it.

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