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What's this word (English language related)

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ColdemortReturns · 20/01/2021 09:10

When you have a common saying where both words mean the same thing. Such as 'cease and desist'.
Theres a word for it. Please help, it's driving me batty and google isn't helping!

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CaptainMyCaptain · 20/01/2021 09:11

tautology

www.dictionary.com/browse/tautology

ColdemortReturns · 20/01/2021 09:13

[quote CaptainMyCaptain]tautology

www.dictionary.com/browse/tautology[/quote]
No, I dont quite mean tautology. It's a specific word describing a 3 word phrase where it's a repetition.
Now any others examples have fled my mind too Sad

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ladyvimes · 20/01/2021 09:18

Legal doublet?

ladyvimes · 20/01/2021 09:20

Or just doublet

Plexie · 20/01/2021 09:24

Never heard of it but @ladyvimes is right:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_doublet

ColdemortReturns · 20/01/2021 09:24

@ladyvimes

Legal doublet?
I was just looking at that, although I dont think all my examples are legal terminology. Although the only other one i can think of at the moment is 'null and void' so maybe...
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Hippychickster · 20/01/2021 09:25

synonym?

ChardonnaysPetDragon · 20/01/2021 09:25

It's very much a thing in British English, like bits and pieces, hot and bothered, spic and span.

It's not a simple tautology, because it involves the use of the exact same pair of words in the exact same order.

MrsHamlet · 20/01/2021 09:27

Collocation. It's a type of fixed expression.
You can't have "cease and stop" or "girls and gentlemen".

Hippychickster · 20/01/2021 09:27

Probably not, sorry, I missed the 'three word phrase' bit

LittleRa · 20/01/2021 09:28

A redundant expression?
Although that isn’t a “three word phrase” that you asked about as doesn’t necessarily include an “and” but things like:
“Final outcome”
“Advance warning”
“Free gift”
“New beginning”

KaptainKaveman · 20/01/2021 09:28

The expression 'cease and desist' actually demands two slightly separate actions: the imperative verb 'cease' demands that X is immediately halted. The second imperative 'desist' requests that X is not restarted at any time. In layman's terms it means 'stop doing X, and don't do X in the future'. Therefore although the meanings are very similar they aren't identical.

ColdemortReturns · 20/01/2021 09:54

I might mean pleonasm. But that's not quite right either...

What's this word (English language related)
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ChardonnaysPetDragon · 20/01/2021 10:08

Binomial expression, Google tells me.

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