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Have you ever met someone you felt was truly evil?

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Isisiris · 18/01/2021 00:34

Inspired by a thread,not a TAAT. have you ever met someone and just known they were evil?
Or has someone you know done something you felt showed they were?
I'm suffering insomnia and this subject fascinates me.

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bluebellscorner · 18/01/2021 19:40

In my student says, I was walking home listening to music late one night, so I suppose it took me a while to realise that a man - well dressed and nice looking - walking way too close to me, following me. I crossed the road to get rid of him, but he followed right after me. That made me alarmed, and as I was nearly home I started jogging towards the houses where I lived intending to shortcut across a small green to my house. I sensed that he too had picked up his pace so I turned around just in time to see him sort of lunge towards me, making a grabbing motion. I sprinted like crazy until I reached my door.

I knew that he had stopped following me so I turned around to look at him, there was about 25 metres between us. Like from a scene out of a movie, he was standing under a streetlight just staring at me. I looked at him for a few seconds and then unlocked my door and went in.

A few weeks later he was on the ‘most wanted’ tv shown in my then home country. He had attached several women in my area, never raping but violently, sexually assaulting them.

Like so many others on this thread, I remember his eyes and the sort of dead look in them. Utterly indifferent but full of rage at the same time

BobbinThreadbare123 · 18/01/2021 20:06

When I was a teacher. One particular boy stands out. I would not be surprised if he ends up in the paper for something truly vile, probably against women. Made me shudder when he was in my class.

itsgettingweird · 18/01/2021 20:26

Worked with someone who seemed lovely. They left after a few months.

Didn't think he was when wanted posters for him popped up on town as wanted on a murder charge.

Even less so when it was so horrific some of the details are under a media blackout.

itsgettingweird · 18/01/2021 20:41

@Shehasadiamondinthesky

No, I've worked in men's prisons and locked psychiatric units over the years and I've met people who are truly mad but not evil. Evil is a religious concept and most people who do terrible things are psycopaths or so disturbed they don't function properly. There is no place in science for "evil".

That's a really interesting explanation and very thought provoking.

And I agree with that concept.

I don't agree evil doesn't exist in actions but certainly the terminology is very religious based.

Going to think about this much more!

Pieceofpurplesky · 18/01/2021 21:06

An ex pupil. He had an aura, cold and calculated. Other children avoided him. He was vile to female staff members and like to use his height to push kids around. He had a way of just looking at you and it made my skin crawl.

He got life last year for a brutal and vicious murder of someone. A premeditated attack

umpteennamechanges · 18/01/2021 21:10

@thenorthernluce

I'm a Sarah S

PurBal · 18/01/2021 21:19

I don't believe anyone is wholly evil. I feel evil is more to do with deeds than something that is inherent to a a person.

BlueThistles · 18/01/2021 21:30

I believe people can absolutely be evil.

2021hastobebetter · 18/01/2021 21:40

Yes. I met a 11 year old who didn’t last the day at school - evil? Don’t know but he was mentally highly unwell. He pulled a knife on someone and within 6 years in prison for murder (he was local). I taught a girl who at 14 I thought was pure evil. She wanted to be a nurse. She committed GBH and ABH and some sex offences at aged 16. She was evil - very evil. I have taught some violent and sick children over the years. The latest (2 years ago) his mother was a teacher and worked in the same school. He’s 15 now and sadly I would not be surprised to hear of him committing a serious offence. He just doesn’t have any empathy, kindness or responsibility.

Robbybobtail · 18/01/2021 21:49

Yes, I’ve had two men in the past who got out of their cars and shouted horrific abuse to me - one because I was apparently “going too slow” in front of him, the other because I didn’t move over to let him through when it was my right of way. Both were absolutely apoplectic with rage, swearing, shouting vile abuse, threatening. I had my child with me on one occasion and he got out of his car and started filming us (why I have no idea - I was just sat there in shock!) they both just went completely mental. I know there’s no way either would have acted this way if I’d been with my husband, they were both skinny little runts. But the way they acted and spoke to me over such a small perceived slight just made me wonder what else they have done in their lives. I felt very, very sorry for whoever they live with as I’m sure they must suffer at the hands of these vile men. They acted like they wanted to kill me, very scary.

caringcarer · 18/01/2021 23:17

I am a foster carer and when you take a new child into your home you are told what SS know about their past home life. They don't always know the full extent of the abuse the child has suffered and the child only tells their full story way down the line once you have won their trust. Occasionally a parent has been pure evil to the child who felt they could not report as a Mum or Dad. So even though being tortured remained loyal to their evil parent.

sofiaaaaaa · 18/01/2021 23:32

Not evil per se. I met this girl from my uni during a flat party.

I immediately noticed that she was compulsively lying. She was making ice-breaker conversation about all the high end makeup and designer stuff she had....but she was inventing products up and lying about services offered etc.

It was weird enough that I decided to keep a distance from her going forward although my friends couldn’t see how weird she was to me. I’m not a fan of white lies - I was a psychology student and she just struck an insincere chord with me

She was my friend’s course mate, and over the course of the year she started a vendetta against my flatmate. She bullied her, think nasty comments, purposely leaving her out etc then played the victim after. Lots of drama ensued

She escalated to lying about being raped - concocted an entire story complete with theatricals....the guy she accused wasn’t even on campus that the time

BoJoHoNo · 18/01/2021 23:41

As a teenager I used to have lessons with a tutor in his home. There was something about him and that flat that gave me chills and made me extremely uncomfortable, but i could never quite put my finger on it. Shortly after I stopped having lessons with him he was arrested for drugging and violently raping male students (some of the offences happened in the flat) over a period of around 15 years!

Notashandyta · 19/01/2021 01:13

@CarrieMoonBeams
I'm very sorry for what happened to you

MissMarks · 19/01/2021 01:27

There is an interview with an IRA man called Des Long on a BBC documentary. I got chills watching it and thought that I was truly watching evil.

CarrieMoonbeams · 19/01/2021 03:08

Thank you @Notashandyta. The funny thing is that if you'd met my dad, you would have liked him. He was charming and well read. That ability to change persona literally as soon as we were behind closed doors was chilling.

As I said though, I've come out of it really well. My DH is an absolute gem, we're nearly 60 now and have been together since our teens. We have a lovely calm household with lots of pets, most of them rescued and slightly wonky!

Cocogreen · 19/01/2021 03:24

Not me, but a very close friend met an elderly man through her job ( can’t reveal the details ). When she shook his hand she wanted to recoil because she got a terrible vibe from him. She felt very uncomfortable around him and later found out he was a notorious pedophile priest who’d been imprisoned for his crime. Pure evil.

Spottysausagedogs · 19/01/2021 13:02

I was about 19 (very much younger looking and fresh faced though) when I met Jimmy Savile at an evening fundraiser. My friend and I had grown up watching him on telly and thought he was that lovely, fatherly/grandfatherly type who would cuddle little kids on his knee and give them amazing gifts. Great, go and get his autograph for me, so being the slightly bolder one I went over. He was very flattering, almost charming but more just lechy really, was basically coming on to me but was in his 70's at the time so inappropriate attitude, and that was confusing to me given his screen persona. He said something nice about my appearance and took my hand. He turned it over and brought up to his face as if to kiss the back of it all gentlemanly. Then in the most disgusting lewd way just slowly licked it whilst looking me straight in the eye and grinning. I laughed because I was confused and naive. Got out of there as quickly as possible. He did this in plain sight of everyone that was there, but I would say it was mostly men of a similar age to him at that point.
I look back now and wonder how anyone could have done the things he did, how manipulative and evil a person you'd have to be to get away with abusing children whilst being adored by millions as a lovely guy who cares for them so much. One of the most famous people in the country at that time. How could you live with yourself, and be so confident you could evade discovery? (and he clearly was). So so cold and evil!

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Isisiris · 20/01/2021 19:28

Some of these are awful. And spotty that's shocking. I guess nobody acts 'evil' all the time because they'd not get to practice their 'art' otherwise.

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thosetalesofunexpected · 21/01/2021 01:51

Hi Op
I knew a family who youngest Son went to the same primary school as my son.
this boy and his family Came across as nice enough people,

Years Later,I read in my local community newspaper,
this boy,my son was friends with growing up,(my son even went to his family home for his birthday.

I found out Years Later,my son friend had murdered his former girlfriend as he was very Possessive,Jealous as she had enough of his ways,and had decided to move on,and had started Seeing Someone else,
He had attacked her/killed her in a fit of Jealousy, whilst she was with her small child.

He is a evil Fucking Monster !

As a Boy he looked Normal,but my son said he had hell of a temper as a kid..

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