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No way to complain, Nintendo Shame

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Kayela · 16/01/2021 13:05

My 10-year-old son spent over £1500 between July 2020 and Dec 2020 on in-game purchases for Fortnite, with my card, without my knowledge.

I didn't notice it, as the card is for a savings account I use every year to save for Xmas (presents, food, treats). I don't look at the account, just put money into it. I know how stupid that sounds now, but it's worked fine for years. When I found out I was devastated and so was my son as he didn't understand the scale of what he'd done or the consequences on the rest of the family.

I contacted my bank who initially said they would be able to help, but after further investigation said they couldn't dispute the charges as it was a 'civil matter', because it was my son that had been using my card, it wasn't fraud.

I contacted Nintendo who confirmed that the quantity and pattern of spend on the account was very irregular and that they would refund the last 90 days. They refunded £500 really quickly (which was helpful during the Xmas period). However, that was 57 days, not 90 days.

I have continued to contact them to try to further the case. I cannot speak or email the same person twice. I cannot speak to a supervisor or manager. They have no complaints process! I am £1000 out of pocket with no way to even complain to a multi-billion dollar company!!

My son will not touch his Switch. He hasn't done so since the evening I found out. We are in a new 'lockdown' and that was the way he socialised with his friends. He has been affected terribly by this, as have I.

Does anyone know of a similar situation, or have any advice for me to further this. I feel strongly that I want to do something to protect others from going through this gut-wrenching situation. More importantly to stop children from being made to feel so awful, depressed, and guilty through Nintendo's utter exploitation and refusal to rectify the situation.

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Bluntness100 · 18/01/2021 11:52

Op what are you talking about?

Just email their customer services. But what are you going to complain about? You and your eighteen year old didn’t set up controls correctly? Your younger son kne he was doing wrong but didn’t understand the consequences? How is any of this Nintendo’s responsibility ?

store.nintendo.co.uk/contact-us.info

If you don’t want the store you can easily google their customer service phone numbers.

ScottishStottie · 18/01/2021 12:29

So he knew that he was spending money but not the extent? Is there any SEN or other reason why your 10 year old cant add up?

raspberrysundaes · 18/01/2021 12:51

It's clear this is my mistake, but as someone kindly said I'm not the first and I won't be the last. The clue is in the title .... there is no way to complain!!

store.nintendo.co.uk/contact-us.info

You can contact customer service at the link above.

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Clymene · 18/01/2021 12:55

The OP has clearly already contacted customer services but clearly feels if she were able to escalate this in some way, she'd be able to persuade Nintendo to make a larger contribution.

They're a privately owned company, they're under no obligation to have any kind of formalised complaint service, even if the OP did have a leg to stand on.

PaddyF0dder · 18/01/2021 13:05

It’s not “exploitation”. You screwed up by inputting your card details and not setting parental controls. Nintendo have done nothing wrong.

Maybe you’ll get the money back. Maybe you won’t. But stop externalising the fault, and learn from this.

Iggly · 18/01/2021 13:08

@ScottishStottie

So he knew that he was spending money but not the extent? Is there any SEN or other reason why your 10 year old cant add up?
Why would he sit down and write out every purchase or add it up as he went along?

I can see that my ds would easily do this - it’s very easy to do it. That’s why they have in game purchasing, to make it difficult to connect the value of what you’re buying in a game to the monetary value. That’s why vbucks (fortnite) and robux (roblox) exist! The “in game” currency provides that disconnect.

OP, please don’t be too harsh on your son. Sadly you’re the one who’s messed up here.

I’ve got parental controls on the Xbox, on the switch, on the PC and all devices. It’s not worth the risk.

PaddyF0dder · 18/01/2021 13:10

Also, “I’m not tech savvy” is a piss poor excuse. WHY are you not “tech savvy”? It’s not difficult to educate yourself on these things. Self-enforced wilful ignorance is a choice.

WeAllHaveWings · 18/01/2021 13:12

It happened to us too, years ago with our very first tablet and first time we were in the world of apps and games, although we caught it much much sooner as we got email receipts, this is what we did - we thumped ds took ownership and responsibility and wrote it off as an expensive life lesson.

It doesn't matter if you know nothing about tech, as soon as you were asked for your bank card details for a 10 years olds toy you should have said no or been all over it checking and double checking how those bank details could be used and how it could be protected.

There are safety nets for this, disabling inapp purchases, passwords, email receipts for purchases etc. It appear when you, or your adult son you trusted on your behalf, setup your console you either switched these all off and/or gave your son the passwords. This is not Nintendo's fault, they have behaved well giving you a substantial refund.

ScrapThatThen · 18/01/2021 13:26

Yeah, life lesson. If the poor boy is distraught you need to give him a practical way to pay you back and make amends (a new weekly chore for 3 months). And then demonstrate that you have moved on. He might also be experiencing shame if he's been showing off in the game and now can't. The company may or may not partially refund but you don't have a strong case as pps have pointed out.

WhereverIGoddamnLike · 18/01/2021 13:48

We havent bought anything on the switch in a while, but I've just purchased the pokemon sheild expansion for my son (I didnt know there was one and he just completed the rest of the game). I had to go through the process of password and had to re-enter my credit card details because children's accounts are not allowed to save credit card details. So even if he wanted to purchase, he couldn't do it through his child's account. He would have needed my passwords and my card in his possession. To use my debit card, he would again need password and the code from the back of the card.
If your son was able to purchase so many different occasions then it's because you've given him your card and your passwords (or your 18 year old did).

NuniaBeeswax · 18/01/2021 14:01

"there is no way to complain!!"

You have complained. Just because you have not had the outcome that you see to think you deserve does not mean you have not complained.

And what does Nintendo's financial position that to do with it? Does that mean they're obliged to give you back the money that your poor innocent little angel has stolen from you? If he "doesn't understand then consequences" then TEACH HIM. Your anger is misdirected.

Ch3rish · 18/01/2021 14:36

I cant see if you've said yet how the card details got into the Switch in the first place, that really does have a bearing on how angry you are entitled to be with Nintendo

SionnachRua · 18/01/2021 14:47

So...the account was set up as an adult account with card details. You didn't set up parental controls or check the account connected to the card.

It does suck but I don't see how any of that is Nintendo's fault or that they are somehow causing children to be depressed. Your lack of supervision was the cause of any depression.

Their financial position has nothing to do with it. It's not their fault.

dingoesatemybaby · 18/01/2021 14:51

I'm not sure there is much more you can do as far as recouping costs go.

Like others have said, you are not the first and won't be the last, but as far as Nintendo are concerned it's a legal transaction as your payment details were linked to your son's account. The £500 seems to be a gesture of goodwill and I think it's unlikely you'll get the rest back. Though I'm sure Nintendo are fully aware this happens, a lot!

There are some YouTube vids on setting up parents controls on switch so your son is unable to make purchases without you having to approve them. If you go through them together with your son he may feel more comfortable playing his switch again.

BabyBee93 · 18/01/2021 14:59

Why would you make complaint to either your bank or Nintendo when neither of these entities are liable? Why should they have to pay because your son had access to your card details and spent without your knowledge? You should have been checking your accounts far more regularly and then he wouldn't have ended up spending £1500.

Yes he is a child and likely unaware of the consequences but it's your responsibility to maintain your own finances, really don't think you can hold anyone other than yourself accountable Confused

BabyBee93 · 18/01/2021 15:01

@dingoesatemybaby

Thanks for the giggle at your username Grin

Tinkywinkydinkydoo · 18/01/2021 15:33

Fortnite isn’t even a Nintendo owned game. It’s like an app, anyone can download it to an Xbox, ps, laptop etc, by Epic Games, so they’d be receiving most of the money, Nintendo would only be getting a small share , if they refunded you the whole amount they’d be out of pocket as most of it went to Epic games not Nintendo. My son purchased something on fortnite earlier via the switch, I had to put my email address and password in at least twice and sign up to epic games, it’s not as simple as pressing one little button

Garlicbagelmonster · 18/01/2021 15:37

When my DS1, he racked up £500 worth of app purchases. Ultimately it was our fault because we didn’t set up parental controls properly. Echoing a pp, you have to take the majority of the responsibility.

Garlicbagelmonster · 18/01/2021 15:38

With not when

NuniaBeeswax · 18/01/2021 16:03

"I cant see if you've said yet how the card details got into the Switch in the first place, that really does have a bearing on how angry you are entitled to be with Nintendo"

One of the poor exploited little dears tripped and fell, landed on OPs secret bank card for the account she never checks, and the details somehow materialised on the Switch. It's the only logical explanation.

BabyBee93 · 18/01/2021 16:22

Just reread your post again and have to add...Nintendo is not making children feel "guilty and depressed", what an utterly ridiculous thing to suggest! Any console given to a child is the responsibility of the parents to manage, you cannot hold Nintendo responsible for something that is evidently not their issue. You gave your 10 year old son your card details and then failed to check the account you gave him access to. Nothing to do with Nintendo.

If your son had taken your card and bought oodles of sweets from Tesco without your knowledge, would you be huffing up customer services and asking for a refund for the sweets he'd eaten? Of course not

ZeldaPrincessOfHyrule · 18/01/2021 17:50

I don't see what Nintendo's richness has to do with it actually. You've not got more rights to have your money back based on their bank balance...

Bunnybigears · 18/01/2021 18:00

Nintendo as a company have been around for years and years, they did something completely different before they started doing computers (I cant remember what) they are a very bug company with a lot of money. It doesn't make you any more deserving of getting money back your son knowingly spent with them. I dont think you have answered how the bank details got into the console. Either you out them there your 18 put them there or your 10 year old put them there. Nintendo didn't put them there.

SionnachRua · 18/01/2021 19:52

@Bunnybigears

Nintendo as a company have been around for years and years, they did something completely different before they started doing computers (I cant remember what) they are a very bug company with a lot of money. It doesn't make you any more deserving of getting money back your son knowingly spent with them. I dont think you have answered how the bank details got into the console. Either you out them there your 18 put them there or your 10 year old put them there. Nintendo didn't put them there.
Yes - very old company, founded in the late 19th century. They used to make playing cards and at one stage ran 'love hotels' (rooms that you rent by the hour). Other things too but the love hotel bit of info always sticks in my brain Grin
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