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Mother and baby advice from 1960 - ask away!

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TerpsichoreanMuse · 05/01/2021 11:52

I've been clearing out my father's house (he's sold it) and I've found the baby manuals given to my mother when I was born in 1960.

There are four: the "Glaxo Mother and Baby" book, "From Milk to Mixed Diet" (a guide to modern baby feeding), "Relaxation and exercise for natural childbirth" (1959) and "You and your baby," published by the BMA.

If anyone would like any advice (only 60 years out-of-date!) on this topic, please ask and I shall attempt to answer.

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SomewhatBored · 09/01/2021 10:52

Or at least, perhaps, we try to train earlier as we want less washing?

And of course, back in the 60s and 70s, the washing would most likely have been done in a twin-tub! We didn't get an automatic washing machine until some years after my sister and I were out of the nappy phase. I remember sitting on the kitchen floor watching my mum swishing things round in the twin tub before lugging the sopping things out and into a very loud and scary spin-dryer (they were still soaking even after the spin dryer).

ReallySpicyCurry · 09/01/2021 11:48

Warmer houses make a difference too. Modern toddlers in cloth nappies are still going to be less concerned at a squishy arse if it's a warm squidgy arse, rather than a no central heating one.

SomewhatBored · 09/01/2021 12:00

We also had a kit consisting of a seat that sat over the loo seat to make the hole smaller and a step, to aid transition from potty to the normal loo. I seem to recall we started using that fairly quickly and the potty stage was quite shortlived. I certainly remember using the pull-chain in the downstairs loo which was replaced by a low-level toilet when I was very young. I don't know whether those kits exist nowadays.

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CaptainMyCaptain · 09/01/2021 12:03

@SomewhatBored

We also had a kit consisting of a seat that sat over the loo seat to make the hole smaller and a step, to aid transition from potty to the normal loo. I seem to recall we started using that fairly quickly and the potty stage was quite shortlived. I certainly remember using the pull-chain in the downstairs loo which was replaced by a low-level toilet when I was very young. I don't know whether those kits exist nowadays.
My grandsons had a thing like that for a while. The youngest is now 9.
elephantskiss · 09/01/2021 13:33

Yes, even 2 years ago we skipped the potty and just had a step and a plastic toilet seat.

SomewhatBored · 09/01/2021 17:25

Laughing at the summary of this thread in the 'Talk Roundup' email, @MNHQ Grin

SnugglySnerd · 09/01/2021 18:13

If I had my time again I would definitely use cloth nappies for both cost and environmental reasons. I dread to think how much we have spent on all those nappies for 3 dcs! (We never intended to have 3, dc2 was twins!).
My oldest is nearly 7 and still in night-time pants. They are absolutely sodden in the morning, she doesn't yet seem to have the hormone that makes her produce less urine at night and she never wakes up because she is wet either. I'm now wondering if cloth night time pants exist ans if they would help! Her siblings are often dry overnight but not always.

Sunnysausage · 09/01/2021 18:15

Have only just seen this thread thanks to the MNHQ round up. I found a v similar book in my grandmother’s house which clearly belonged to her mother, published in 1912. It is completely fascinating and shocking at the same time. The author is clearly a man, and apparently:
‘the companion volume is entitled Babyhood - baby’s first year, his troubles and trials and how to meet them’ (sadly no copy of that)

There are amazing adverts scattered throughout - Nurse Golton’s Cap for Prominent Ears for example, or Horrockses’ Longcloths, Nainsooks, Cambrics, Madapolams etc Confused.

Some highlights:

During pregnancy ‘the expectant mother must be carefully protected from the shock of evil tidings, any such information being told her with all the tact and sympathy which her husband can command. She should be prevented from reading the morbid, nauseous, problematical and altogether unnecessary and unwholesome literature which is so prevalent today, pictures and spectacles likely to rouse excitement or resentment should be avoided, visits to theatrical productions of a melodramatic nature are unwise, and all objectionable sights and sounds should be kept from her notice’.
‘Alcoholic beverages are best avoided, but if it is customary to take some stimulant, a little light claret or hock is the most suitable’. Spicy food, pastry, ‘rich sweets’ are to be avoided, and meat only eaten once a day, but that section concludes with quite sensible advice: ‘above all avoid fads, hearken not to the advice of food fanciers, do not allow questions of food and drink to obsess the mind, and be moderate in all things’.

Re maternity clothes: ‘pregnancy must interfere with the contours of the figure and any attempt to preserve this by rigid stays is wicked folly, bringing harm to mother and child ... The best advice is that the corsets should be given up as soon as the mother’s comfort necessitates any loosening of the lace’.

During labour ‘the mother’s dress should consist of a woollen vest, a warm nightgown, a knitted bed jacket, and pair of stockings, and, worn under the nightdress, an old flannel petticoat. The object of the petticoat is that the nightgown may be tucked up and kept clean, so there will not be the disturbance of changing this garment once the confinement is over’.

As in the 1960s the mother stays in bed for several days after the birth: ‘for the first two days she should keep in the recumbent position, turning on the side occasionally for a rest. On the third day she may be propped up a little on pillows, and may carefully move her legs about. For the fourth day she may sit up, supported by pillows, for a few moments and she may move her limbs about more freely, but being careful not to separate her thighs too far apart’ (slight difference to me walking home from hospital - only a couple of streets admittedly - the next day!)

The whole thing is fascinating - thank you for sharing yours OP.

Mother and baby advice from 1960 - ask away!
Mother and baby advice from 1960 - ask away!
SomewhatBored · 09/01/2021 18:19

She should be prevented from reading the morbid, nauseous, problematical and altogether unnecessary and unwholesome literature which is so prevalent today

Damn, that's Mumsnet out then! Grin

Ellmau · 09/01/2021 18:23

That orange dress is very, er, orange.

ReallySpicyCurry · 09/01/2021 18:26

What did it say in Talk Roundup? Smile I've lost the password for this email account

SomewhatBored · 09/01/2021 18:28

Talk Roundup:

"It’s been a difficult week for most of us. So we were relieved when TerpsichoreanMuse found her mum’s babycare books from 1960 and took us all back to a simpler time - a time of babies left to nap alone in the front garden, of no judgement about which way you fed your infant, of smoking a few fags a day to stay nice and slim… Wait. What? Oh, never mind, this sounds easy. What do we need to do?

Weaning’s pretty simple in 1960s Mumsnet Land. And the good news is that you can get started at just a few weeks old! "A good way to introduce your baby to solids is to give him a little lightly-cooked egg on a teaspoon before the third feed," the book suggests. Got it. So just a simple salmonella chaser with their normal Nationalised Powdered Formula? Done. Apparently a crispy rasher of bacon is also a great way to get weaning off to a good start. You need to make sure they hit that magic salt target each day, obviously, and what better way than with some nice processed meat?

What about if they’re crotchety? Might be his teeth? "The Glaxo book says that half an aspirin is usually quite effective," says Muse. "But it's reasonable to ask your doctor to prescribe something to help the baby sleep at night." Goodo. So if the aspirin doesn’t completely dissolve the child’s stomach lining, the doc can always provide something to REALLY knock him out. Sorted.

How about potty training? Well, good news actually. It doesn’t exist. We have instead 'Habit Training' according to Muse’s book, the mothers of 1960 presumably being too delicate to read the word 'potty' in black and white. "A mother’s object is first to get the baby to understand what she wants, which means that he must be old enough - let us say 15 months old - to comprehend." Well this does sound good. Potties done and dusted before they can even speak.

"So how much of the solid advice did Muse’s mother follow?" we wondered. "I've found my mother's diary for 1960. It mentions my birth in passing, and then fills the rest of the entry detailing Princess Margaret's wedding, which my mother watched on television in hospital." We rather like the sound of Muse’s mother. Pass the gin. No, not for us. It’s for that baby crying out in the front yard again."

ReallySpicyCurry · 09/01/2021 18:36

GrinGrinGrin brilliant. That's really made me laugh

Scubadivinginabox · 09/01/2021 19:26

So that's why my mum didn't have a clue what I was talking about when I said I was struggling with a toddler and a baby. She was 28 when she had her oldest and I was 36. She just said: " I don't understand why you're so tired all the time." She probably left us outside to cry too.

VinylDetective · 09/01/2021 20:23

That’s very clever.

TerpsichoreanMuse · 09/01/2021 20:38

Mumsnet's summary is nicely written, though slightly loose with the facts! I love the much earlier advice (sorry, can't look back for the poster or the exact date right now) - really quite sensible, really.

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TerpsichoreanMuse · 09/01/2021 20:40

This "above all avoid fads, hearken not to the advice of food fanciers, do not allow questions of food and drink to obsess the mind, and be moderate in all thing."

Advice I should live by. As well as maybe finding some way to be supine under trees in the summer.

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SomewhatBored · 09/01/2021 20:44

During labour ‘the mother’s dress should consist of a woollen vest, a warm nightgown, a knitted bed jacket, and pair of stockings, and, worn under the nightdress, an old flannel petticoat.

Can't help thinking the poor woman would have been roasting in that lot!

GlitterBiscuits · 09/01/2021 21:14

This should be in Classics!

Sunnysausage · 09/01/2021 21:37

@SomewhatBored

She should be prevented from reading the morbid, nauseous, problematical and altogether unnecessary and unwholesome literature which is so prevalent today

Damn, that's Mumsnet out then! Grin

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Sunnysausage · 09/01/2021 21:39

@SomewhatBored
Indeed - I didn’t even manage to get out of the shirt I was wearing when my DS3 turned up rather precipitately- not following the guidelines...

Sunnysausage · 09/01/2021 21:40

Skirt not shirt Blush

supersplodge · 09/01/2021 23:31

@Norwayreally

A baby cannot go to sleep if his feet are cold

My Gran always loves to tell me how she kept putting thick knitted bootees back on my Father as a newborn in hospital even after the doctors removed them to prevent him overheating. She says with a smile, ‘if your feet are cold, you’re cold so I always made sure their feet were toasty.’

We now of course know that all babies have cold hands and feet.

OMG this is why my mother in law was so scathing about me 'allowing' DS to keep pulling his socks off in his buggy. I explained until I was blue in the face that I did put them on, but he would always take them off. Her answer:

"Well I loved my children so I didn't want them to die of pneumonia.....!"

I still haven't forgiven her for that, tbh. But she is in her 90s.......

supersplodge · 09/01/2021 23:45

@Iwasonceabrownie

I had mine in the early 70s, I was in hospital for 8 days, waited on hand and foot by the nurses 😂. I loved every moment of it, we also had a smoking room down the corridor that was full most days.

Our babies were fed every 4 hours, not on demand. As for non stop feeding throughout the night, it was unheard of. They were fed,winded, changed and put back in the cot, that was as far as sleep training went, I must admit, they did get used to this very quickly,mine was sleeping through the night by 6 months as were most of my friends babies.

Mine had the yolk of a egg at 4 months as well and yes they were put in the garden with a cat net over the pram, front and back gardens, while we got on with housework.

Nobody criticised you for bottle feeding, nobody was bothered about how you brought your own child up. We also didn't have so many books about what was right or wrong. In fact I don't think I ever read a book on bring up babies at all. We all seemed to get by with asking perhaps a neighbour who had an older child or just going by our own gut feeling.

This sounds archaic - and yet my DTs were delivered at 33.5 weeks and spent a few weeks in NICU before they were allowed home. I tried to express but didn't have much milk and they wouldn't suck, so by the time they came home 3 wks later they were well trained up on 4 hourly bottle feeds. Magic!

The nurses told me always to feed both at the same time, or I would have no life. I asked them what I should do if the bigger twin cried for food before his sister was hungry, and they said 'use a dummy or let him cry. Never make a rod for your own back'.

I never planned to use a dummy but I did, and I took their advice. Such easy babies - 4 hourly feeds and slept through at a couple of months. I know I'm lucky - but it was easy. This was 2008.....Grin!

Also - it was a really hot summer. I stuck them in a Moses basket or on a blanket and spent the summer gardening. It was fab! Obviously it's all been downhill since, though.......Hmm

Gogreengoblin · 10/01/2021 22:36

'well ordered baby' visualises smartly dressed baby organising drawers Grin