Self employed and employed at the same time?

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I've had an interview for a job in a cleaning company as they are looking for part time cleaners to clean private houses. It's only 10 to 15 hours a week.

But I have to register for self employed?

I've looked at the definitions of employed and self employed and it says

EmployeeAn employee if you work for someone and do not have the risks of running a business.

Self-employed if you run your own business on your own account and are responsible for the success or failure of that business.

I'm not running my own business though.

The clients either pay me themselves or the company I'm working for employs me.

What about a pension?

Sorry for questions. Googles not much help

Pays me not employs me sorry

Yes, there are lots of these sorts of arrangements where you are self-employed but they find you jobs. The legality of it is a bit blurry, but it's very common. It sounds like in this case they would expect you to register as a sole trader and to invoice them (or clients directly?) for work done. If you are self-employed, you have to sort out your own pension, there would be no workplace pension. I think it would be similar to a nanny would found work through an agency. You would be self-employed making your own arrangements with the clients they send your way. Personally, I would probably be inclined to just set myself up as self-employed and find your own work. You would probably be paid more. Though at the moment, any cleaning work will probably be difficult to come by during lockdown.

Yep you're effectively your own agent - self employed freelancing ( zero hours) out to companies who need you.

The legality of it is indeed blurry - as a "contractor" I believe you can't just work in one place of employment but should be utilised among several locations. I might be wrong on this one though - been a while since I had to deal with it.

It's not the worker or the engager who decides it's the nature of the contract.
Control, financial risk and substitution are indicators.
Control- can you decide when you'll work? Or does the company tell you?
Financial risk- would you supply you're own cleaning products? If you damage something are you liable?
Substitution- can you send someone else to do the job if you can't make it?
HMRC's status tool is a good place to start.
www.gov.uk/guidance/check-employment-status-for-tax

I'm with a cleaning company, had to register as self-employed. Was only supposed to be a temporary thing but I'm on my 3rd year doing it. Client pays me direct, I use their equipment/products. Company insures me and provides holiday cover if needed. The good thing is I can choose my hours/how far I'm willing to travel etc.

No I dont choose when I can work. It has to be in the mornings, as that's when the client has organised with the cleaning company. I do get stuff supplied and any breakage gets dealt with by the company.

I dont find myself the work and she said she didnt take to kindly to childcare issues if they arise etc

So I'm still unsure