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Why can't more vaccine be made by others..?

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justgeton · 02/01/2021 10:08

I'll start by saying I haven't a clue about pharmaceutical manufacturing..

But look at how PPE, even ventilators we're being made by factories that previously made something entirely different back in March..

Now they've 'found the recipe' of is it just the 'ingredients' that are short?

Can't others help?

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Al1langdownthecleghole · 02/01/2021 11:37

@LeaveMyDamnJam

Licences for the manufacturing of the drugs are strictly controlled. Not all manufacturers could make the vaccine because of the specialisms and machinery as well as the ‘raw’ ingredients storage not being possible.

The licence holder also has patent on the formula.

This.

There is enough vaccine.

Al1langdownthecleghole · 02/01/2021 11:39

@justgeton

Thank you for the helpful messages.. I was never suggesting it would be easy, but was hopeful some of the 'can do' approach that was evident at the start of the pandemic would apply to this too.

Do any of you with expertise in this have any thoughts about things that would help increase supply?

We don't need to increase the vaccine supply.

If you could clone a few thousand more qualified Nurses you might be on to something though.

SeaToSki · 02/01/2021 11:48

The technology used to make these new vaccines has never been used before in a large scale vaccine, so there literally are no extra factories around that can be diverted. They vaccines themself are incredibly fragile, that is why they have to be frozen and they manufacturing process also need very specific equipment and conditions. The raw materials needed are exact and have been specified and tested over months, even the vials used are made only for each vaccine and the vial manufacturers are running at full capacity and struggling to keep up. Then the companies have to work out what to to with all the byproducts. One vaccine that was made back in the 80s had waste products of 80,000 eggs contaminated with mercury every day. You cant just throw that away, people have to be trained to handle it and have protective equipment etc. Vaccine production is incredibly difficult and specialized, we are very lucky that we are getting as many doses as we are this quickly and is due to them building the factories and supply chains before they even knew it worked

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boxingdayclearout · 02/01/2021 11:59

Look at John Campbell's videos. Has anyone got a link?
He said yesterday that the Oxford AZ vaccine will be made locally in pharmaceutical companies all over the world. He mentioned several bases in Europe, one in Thailand, in India, in USA etc...
plus, it's cheap to produce, £2 per shot, not for profit, and easily stored and transported as not reliant in industrial clinical freezers.
so yes, this will be rolled out globally and produced all over the world. As well as other vaccines soon to come out in the market. The governments have taken a gamble, and as far as I am aware, some vaccines have been produced on a mass scale since as far back as May.
We will get there with this one, but we need to vaccinate the whole world. That will take time.

Bezzi · 02/01/2021 11:59

@justgeton

But there are other pharmaceutical factories.. I wasn't suggesting McVities chip in.. 🙄
This made me laugh out loud 😂
SexTrainGlue · 02/01/2021 12:08

They are going to me making it with the maximum possible seibke capacity. Which means minimimisung but nitnstopping other cpvaccine production.

We'd be sleepwalking into a global disaster if we stopped immunising against eg measles and whooping cough

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