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Are you doing veganuary, and if so, why?

59 replies

HowToSurvive2021 · 01/01/2021 13:07

There is the usual plethora of 'vegan' food in the supermarkets and just wondering what are the perceived benefits of eating fake animal products for a month.

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MarkRuffaloCrumble · 01/01/2021 13:10

Well I’m not a vegan, but I imagine the ‘perceived benefits’ to the animals are that you’re not eating them. And the perceived benefits to the environment are well documented. It’s a very hard way of life for many to sustain, my DS tried for a while, but went back to straight vegetarianism, but to give it a go for a while is commendable.

TheBodyPiercer · 01/01/2021 13:18

You can be Vegan without eating fake animal products. You know, fruits, vegetables, beans, nuts, bread etc

newlabelwriter · 01/01/2021 13:23

Speaking up as a vegan for 5 years (and I a eat balanced diet which does sometimes does include fake meat) I think the reason quite a lot of people ‘fail’ at becoming vegan is because they come at it from having a diet which includes meat, fish, dairy etc and then try to cut it all out at once. I was a lifelong vegetarian and then became vegan and found it really, really hard at first. I do wonder why people (who aren’t already vegetarian) dong try to become vegetarian first and then vegan 🤷‍♀️

Eminybob · 01/01/2021 13:25

We aren’t vegan but do try and eat vegan at least once a week and the odd full week here and there.

The only pre made vegan food I’ve ever bought is the Richmond sausages, because they are tasty. Everything else is made from scratch using fresh ingredients. You don’t have to eat processed rubbish at all if you don’t want to.

PurpleDaisies · 01/01/2021 13:26

I’be been vegan for a couple of years since doing veganuary. I hardly eat any fake meat. It’s mostly veg for me.

You can be an unhealthy vegan just as you can be an unhealthy meat eater.

It’s good to broaden your diet. All of us eating less meat is good for the planet, even if people didn’t go veggie or vegan,

PurpleDaisies · 01/01/2021 13:26

But I suspect this it just a goady vegan bashing thread...

HowToSurvive2021 · 01/01/2021 13:33

@TheBodyPiercer

You can be Vegan without eating fake animal products. You know, fruits, vegetables, beans, nuts, bread etc
Exactly. Yet every year there is more and more of the fake stuff. There is obviously a market for it.

So it's more a transition. Perhaps for those continuing beyond January.

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PurpleDaisies · 01/01/2021 13:35

Exactly. Yet every year there is more and more of the fake stuff. There is obviously a market for it.

There’s a market for chicken nuggets as well as organic free range chicken. Sometimes you just want some easy convenience food without having to eat meat. Fake chicken nuggets are excellent.

newlabelwriter · 01/01/2021 13:35

@PurpleDaisies

But I suspect this it just a goady vegan bashing thread...
Yep, they normally are 🙄
danadas · 01/01/2021 13:36

I am as likely to go vegan as fly to the moon but it's easy enough to imagine why people might choose them - the taste and sense of eating a meat product but without the involvement of animals. I completely get that and veganism makes much more sense than vegetarianism if you are doing for animal welfare reasons.

My annoyance is the massive reduction in free from foods to cater for plant based foods. I get that it is a business decision but just annoys me that lifestyle choice has pushed out foods for those with medical conditions. That's just my gripe though. I doubt it bothers others.

CeibaTree · 01/01/2021 13:46

OP do you mean are the ‘fake animal’ products supposed to be healthy or are you asking the benefits of veganism in general? I personally think we evolved to eat meat and that most of the fake meat products are processed crap. But if you do a quick google there are many people who have written extensively on the health benefits of a vegan diet. Your OP does read like a bit of a goady post, so can you clarify exactly what you are asking?

PMcGintysGoat · 01/01/2021 13:49

January is the worst possible time for this - it would be more sensible to do this when UK vegetables and salads were in peak season. Veganuary = Airmilesanuary.

ByGrabtharsHammerWhatASavings · 01/01/2021 13:51

I've been vegan for about 2 years and vegetarian for the 18 years before that. I transitioned to veganism over a period of about 6 months by cutting down or eliminating things one at a time, and researching how best to replace those items nutritionally and in my cooking. I don't think going vegan over night is the best idea if you want to stick with it long term, but I think Veganuary is a great time for people who were already thinking about going vegan to try it out.

I think most people do rely more on replacement products when they first go vegan, and then start experimenting more with whole food meals as their cravings for animal products lessen. If it's your first time trying to eat vegan then it's much easier to just replace your meat sausages with soya sausages and call it a day, than to suddenly learn how to make lasagne with lentils or whatever. And veganuary makes this easier because these fake meat products are often massively reduced in price. So the benefit to the person is that it gives them an easy way "in" and helps them see if veganism could fit into their lifestyle in a sustainable way.

It's also a more socially acceptable way of trying it out, because you can just dismiss questions about your new diet as "oh I'm just trying out veganuary" rather than saying you're actually becoming vegan which often comes with a huge amount of pushback and negativity from non vegan family and friends.

Some people will stick with it, but I imagine the most common scenario is that people end the month having found one or two products they really like (I know loads of people who now prefer soya mince to meat mince, or plant milk to dairy milk) and just incorporate these into their diet as a way of slightly reducing their meat consumption. And tbh I also consider that a win. Even if some people just have 1 fewer meat and dairy based meals a week, that's still an improvement from an animal welfare POV. Depending on which products they're choosing it may also be an improvement from an environmental POV as well.

Most vegans I know don't target their activism on a vision of the world where everyone is 100% vegan as most of us know this isn't realistic, but every step that people take to reducing their consumption of animal products is a positive step in my book. If veganuary leads a few people to choose veganism and a few more to start doing regular meat free Mondays or whatever, then it's done some good.

Speaking for myself I bloody love all the fake meat products and use veganuary to pack my freezer with all my favourite junk food that I can't normally afford 😋

HowToSurvive2021 · 01/01/2021 14:07

@ByGrabtharsHammerWhatASavings thank you that's really interesting. I guess I see it as embracing a different way of eating, especially if it's only for a month, not just trying to replicate what is already being eaten.

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Scrowy · 01/01/2021 14:19

Nope I do lambuary instead. Tasty, in season all year in the UK very low environmental impact, no air miles and goes well with the veg that is currently readily available in the UK (sprouts, winter broccoli etc)

Candycats · 01/01/2021 14:20

@ByGrabtharsHammerWhatASavings

I've been vegan for about 2 years and vegetarian for the 18 years before that. I transitioned to veganism over a period of about 6 months by cutting down or eliminating things one at a time, and researching how best to replace those items nutritionally and in my cooking. I don't think going vegan over night is the best idea if you want to stick with it long term, but I think Veganuary is a great time for people who were already thinking about going vegan to try it out.

I think most people do rely more on replacement products when they first go vegan, and then start experimenting more with whole food meals as their cravings for animal products lessen. If it's your first time trying to eat vegan then it's much easier to just replace your meat sausages with soya sausages and call it a day, than to suddenly learn how to make lasagne with lentils or whatever. And veganuary makes this easier because these fake meat products are often massively reduced in price. So the benefit to the person is that it gives them an easy way "in" and helps them see if veganism could fit into their lifestyle in a sustainable way.

It's also a more socially acceptable way of trying it out, because you can just dismiss questions about your new diet as "oh I'm just trying out veganuary" rather than saying you're actually becoming vegan which often comes with a huge amount of pushback and negativity from non vegan family and friends.

Some people will stick with it, but I imagine the most common scenario is that people end the month having found one or two products they really like (I know loads of people who now prefer soya mince to meat mince, or plant milk to dairy milk) and just incorporate these into their diet as a way of slightly reducing their meat consumption. And tbh I also consider that a win. Even if some people just have 1 fewer meat and dairy based meals a week, that's still an improvement from an animal welfare POV. Depending on which products they're choosing it may also be an improvement from an environmental POV as well.

Most vegans I know don't target their activism on a vision of the world where everyone is 100% vegan as most of us know this isn't realistic, but every step that people take to reducing their consumption of animal products is a positive step in my book. If veganuary leads a few people to choose veganism and a few more to start doing regular meat free Mondays or whatever, then it's done some good.

Speaking for myself I bloody love all the fake meat products and use veganuary to pack my freezer with all my favourite junk food that I can't normally afford 😋

Completely agree! I've been vegan for about 18 months but was vegetarian for 13 years before that. I wouldn't expect everyone doing Veganuary to become totally vegan afterwards but at least during that month, less animal products are consumed and hopefully it leads to at least some vegan products being incorporated into their lifestyle from then on. Also, hopefully it changes people's views on veganism as a whole and makes it seem more achievable.
june2007 · 01/01/2021 14:24

I think the "fake" food actually doesn,t help the vegan plight. Scowy I am with you.

PurpleDaisies · 01/01/2021 14:24

@june2007

I think the "fake" food actually doesn,t help the vegan plight. Scowy I am with you.
Why not? What is “vegan plight”?
CovidCarol · 01/01/2021 14:27

I'm vegetarian and giving Veganuary a go, as most of the things I eat are vegan anyway.

My DD and her uni mates are mostly veggie and are also going to try going vegan for a while.
It can only be a good thing even if it is only a month.

Lambruary indeed, poor little baby sheep not even had a life, at least eat older animals if you're going to eat them at all Hmm

ForTheLoveOfCatFood · 01/01/2021 14:29

Did it last year as try and do a challenge each jan and felt so much better (slept better, clear skin, less bloated)?have kept it up ever since, have the odd vegetarian meal too but wouldn’t go back to eating meat.
Don’t use the meat substitutes much now just lots of lentils pulses and veg but it certainly helped when I started out.

I think being able to use the fake meats etc will help people try something new because it’s easy and means they don’t have to come up with new recipe ideas. Ie swapping mince for soy mince Smile

Scrowy · 01/01/2021 14:35

Lambruary indeed, poor little baby sheep not even had a life, at least eat older animals if you're going to eat them at all hmm

You realise lamb isn't the baby lambs you see running round in fields right? The lamb you eat will generally be older than any pigs that go to be bacon, and definitely older than any chickens.

As it happens I'm a big fan of vegetables and not adverse to natural vegan dishes, but I'm very averse to being told that frankenfoods, out of season food with thousands of air miles and stuff full of palm oil and almonds are somehow better for the environment than a lamb that's eaten grass all of its life in the Yorkshire Dales.

june2007 · 01/01/2021 14:40

I think some of the processed vegan foods, you wonder what your eating. You see things with Jake fruit in thats not native to uk and has to travel miles how many people even know what it is. I think eat less meat eat less prcessed food is good.

june2007 · 01/01/2021 14:40

Can I say it,s the ame for any processed food thouh not just VEgan.

JamesAnderson · 01/01/2021 14:47

@PMcGintysGoat

January is the worst possible time for this - it would be more sensible to do this when UK vegetables and salads were in peak season. Veganuary = Airmilesanuary.
Yes this. Along with January being the most depressing month of the year anyway.
CovidCarol · 01/01/2021 15:47

The lambs are around 6 months old when slaughtered, aren't they? That's still a baby in my eyes.
Disgusting that pigs are younger than that too Angry

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