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Higher quality ingredients for baking - do you notice?

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MeMarmiteYouJam · 27/12/2020 23:34

I recently made a special dessert for my partner's birthday. It was the first time I tried it and so did a few practice runs (fiddly recipe).

For the final result I used higher quality ingredients - organic, free range eggs, bourbon vanilla extract, etc. But I didn't notice the difference in taste compared to my (successful) practice runs.

Do you notice the difference when you use higher quality ingredients in baking?

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FurryGiraffe · 28/12/2020 07:07

During the first lockdown when flour supplies were dodgy, I ended up buying 'Superfine sponge flour' for DS1s birthday cake. I was sceptical but the sponge was fantastic.

AppleJane · 28/12/2020 07:29

@FurryGiraffe

During the first lockdown when flour supplies were dodgy, I ended up buying 'Superfine sponge flour' for DS1s birthday cake. I was sceptical but the sponge was fantastic.

The protein content of sponge flour is different so it definitely makes a better cake. It's used a lot for dairy free baking for an extra lift.

MeMarmiteYouJam · 28/12/2020 07:42

All very interesting! I might be convinced I'm wrong. Grin

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movingonup20 · 28/12/2020 07:43

No, but sieving flour is worth it

clary · 28/12/2020 07:57

@BarbaraofSeville

There's so many other factors (skill of baker, oven) that you'd have to do a blind side by side comparison to get a definite answer, but for cakes, pies, biscuits, puddings etc, I'd say most people won't notice any difference, and be perfectly happy with the cheaper ingredients.

I always use butter, free range eggs and dark chocolate, but it all comes from Aldi or Lidl, including the 30 pence dark chocolate, and it's all really nice.

I once did rocky road for work with these sorts of ingredients and it went down really well, including a comment about how good the chocolate was, from a colleague who is very 'Waitrose and Farmers market', even though it was the 30 p from Aldi type.

yy agree re Aldi 30p chocolate. It actually has higher cocoa solids than the Morrisons equivalent (or maybe it's Sainsburys?) anyway it's a good buy.
Pimmsypimms · 28/12/2020 08:01

I can definitely tell if I've used cheap quality vanilla extract. I struggled to find any vanilla extract in any of the supermarkets during the 1st lockdown so bought some from the pound shop. I could definitely tell, it wasn't a nice taste.

AppleJane · 28/12/2020 08:38

@Pimmsypimms

I can definitely tell if I've used cheap quality vanilla extract. I struggled to find any vanilla extract in any of the supermarkets during the 1st lockdown so bought some from the pound shop. I could definitely tell, it wasn't a nice taste.
Yy. If only the good stuff wasn't so expensive!!
Copperblack · 28/12/2020 08:45

I got given some McDougall’s sponge flour ( I normally use Aldi) and I couldn’t see any positive difference at all. Eggs make a difference though.

RainingBatsAndFrogs · 28/12/2020 08:50

I notice cheap chocolate and margarine.

Butter is so much better.

DH made a curry with Aldi chick peas the other day: truly horrible, tasteless with a vague disinfectant flavour.

quarentini · 28/12/2020 08:58

Chef here

So long as you sieve the flour to get some air into it then I just say use what you like really.

bearlyactive · 28/12/2020 09:16

My revered brownies use cheap Sainsbury's basics chocolate and ordinary plain flour and people rave about them. Maybe it's all the butter...

Ginfordinner · 28/12/2020 09:16

@sheworkshardforthemoney

Chef for a living

Butter not margarine
Any dark chocolate NOT milk chocolate

Fresh free range eggs
Real vanilla pods

NEVER use liquid dyes

That's all I can think of right now 😊

I disagree about butter vs margarine for baking. I have done a few blind tastings on various people with plain fairy cakes, and the margarine ones won every time. We all found the fairy cakes made with butter browned a little more and were slightly more greasy (but delicious anyway)

I agree about milk chocolate, which has no place in baking IMO
I always use free range eggs
I use vanilla paste, which is more readily available where I live
Gel food colourings all the way

StopSquirtingBleachOnCaneToads · 28/12/2020 09:23

It depends. I notice high quality butter in anything that requires you cream up the butter. I notice cheap vanilla extract vs good quality vanilla paste or actual pods.

Depending on the recipe you might notice how fresh the eggs are - but this is true for all cooking, not just baking.

I notice high quality cocoa powder and icing sugar, but not in the end product - I notice it whilst I'm actually baking because they don't clump as much and are generally easier to work through a seive/sifter.

gannett · 28/12/2020 09:40

Depends a lot on the recipe. Any ingredient that's the star of the show flavour-wise is worth getting good quality for. Honey is the one I seem to always end up spending exorbitant amounts on, and finding that it does make a massive difference (obviously not if the recipe only requires a small amount). Fruit as well, especially if used fresh, though quality and price aren't correlated there.

Fresh eggs are definitely important I'd say. I buy free range for ethical reasons but it's the freshness that'll make a difference, not organic/free range necessarily.

With things like chocolate and flour - better quality will probably make for a better outcome but it's not always worth it. You could spend twice as much on fancy chocolate, say, but while it might make the cake a little nicer it won't make it twice as nice. So I just use Bourneville and it's fine.

lurkingfromhome · 28/12/2020 09:44

Agree - I notice the difference in butter and vanilla. Never notice any difference between super expensive organic flour and Tesco own brand. Eggs I've never really noticed a difference but I always use free range anyway. Chocolate yes - but any half decent chocolate with a good percentage of cocoa solids is fine - doesn't need to be an expensive one.

MeMarmiteYouJam · 28/12/2020 09:47

I think it's different with main meals - higher quality cuts of meat, for instance, is far more noticeable than more expensive flour in a cake.

I'll remember the Aldi chocolate tip, though!

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Ginfordinner · 28/12/2020 11:08

Any ingredient that's the star of the show flavour-wise is worth getting good quality for

I agree. while I might use a tub of Stork for sponge cakes - so shoot me Grin, I wouldn't dream of using anything other than butter for shortbread.

Jobseeker19 · 28/12/2020 11:10

I notice the difference with butter. If I use Stork v if I use Lurpak (or Danpak).
Even for other people, the reviews are better.

MeMarmiteYouJam · 28/12/2020 11:24

@Ginfordinner

Any ingredient that's the star of the show flavour-wise is worth getting good quality for

I agree. while I might use a tub of Stork for sponge cakes - so shoot me Grin, I wouldn't dream of using anything other than butter for shortbread.

Yes, even after admitting to not really caring much about ingredients, I couldn't cope with margarine-based shortbread!
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Plonque · 28/12/2020 12:43

Definitely butter in place of margarine, but they are two different things so not quite the same issue. I just will not touch marge 🤢

onlyhereforthefood · 28/12/2020 13:21

Eggs and butter are the two things I notice a difference with.

Butter especially in biscuits or cookies as I find baking spreads make them too wet and lose their shape.

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